Welcome to EP2 of The Being Responsible show. Today I cover what’s happening with Bill Gates’ not-so-transparent media and journalism donations, and Germany’s harsh segregation of the unvaccinated. I also have a guest, Scott Allan, who is the author of “No Punches Pulled” to talk about mindset, achieving goals, and personal development among other things.
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[00:00:00] Clement: hello there. Welcome to another episode of the being responsible show. And in this episode, I get to talk to Scott Allen, who is a very accomplished author. He has written a variety of books on the subject of mindset, uh, personal power. Uh, shifting your paradigm, achieving the kind of life and goals that you desire and a lot of personal and professional development.
So I had a great conversation with them. We touched on a lot of things, very close to the heart of this show of what I like to talk about. Responsibility, adulting, how to break free from negative behaviors, how to map out your future. And really hold yourself [00:01:00] accountable for, you know, what you decide and how you decide to live your life.
So it’s a very powerful, very helpful episode. But before I get to that, I would like to dump into which will be the first time I do this on the being responsible show is the segment of this week’s news. Being able to, I would say had the pleasure, maybe not the pleasure, um, given the current state of affairs around the world, but that I’ve been able to consume and think about and kind of distill for you.
So let’s just begin with, I think one of the biggest stories, which is that there was an independent report published recently. I will get the information for you and publish it here in the description so that I can cite my references where independent journalists were able to find what bill gates has actually been investing a lot of his donations into when [00:02:00] it comes to mainstream.
And whether you’ve been living on a rock or not, you’ll probably know who bill gates is. He’s one of the most wealthiest people, the wealthiest men in the history of humankind, uh, responsible for, uh, companies like Microsoft. And now the, in the mill and mill, the bill and Melinda gates foundation, which has been working on humanitarian projects.
Around the world for a number of decades. I believe now a lot of the money that he gives away every year goes to media and you have to kind of wonder, well, okay. So if you know, millions or hundreds of millions of dollars coming from. Foundation is going to things like journalism, uh, education, uh, also to the, uh, companies that hire those journalists like CNN, [00:03:00] ABC, CNBC, MSNBC, which Ms.
By the way, stands for Microsoft, uh, you know, is this a conflict of interest with. Having someone in that position of power with that kind of influence in the world, especially in the things that he’s doing, not just in the realm of COVID and pharmaceuticals and vaccinations, but, you know, in terms of developing nations and how he and his teams are.
Helping them and funding them and educating them. I mean, is there a conflict of interest there when the journalists cover stories like that? Because let’s just think logically for a moment when, you know, there’s a phrase which goes like don’t bite the hand that feeds you, correct. If you’re getting money and you’re happy and you’re con you’re, uh, you’re taking care of, and you’re [00:04:00] comfortable, why.
Why would you possibly want to bite that hand now? Yes, there aren’t people who wouldn’t take the money, but it just so happens that these organizations have taken the money and it’s on record. So what are they doing with the money and how is it being spent? Well, it just so turns out a lot of that is actually very difficult.
If not impossible to find out there are very vague descriptions of define. Like assisting in the education of journalism and things like that, but nothing specific so that money could theoretically be being, uh, could be spent on anything. And I feel like it’s kind of reasonable and correct me if I’m wrong here.
Um, feel free to write in and message me on Instagram or whatever. But if you think that a man with that power and that wealth. Funneling a lot of this money and yes. Okay. A lot of it could be for tax [00:05:00] reasons. I’ve heard that argument that a lot of it would be write off tax, so he doesn’t have to pay the tax on those funds, but.
Hundreds of millions of dollars going towards mainstream media and the education of journalists. What does that give you in terms of influence when it comes to covering subjects that you’re directly involved with or that you benefit from in some financial way or some strategic way? I think logically it would be.
Strange not to come to the conclusion that there is a conflict of interest. So just to, to kind of conclude here, you must be able to keep a level head when it comes to very divisive politics, political, um, topics like COVID like the government and the political agendas and the. [00:06:00] Kind of the mandates of vaccines.
You have to keep a level head and be rational about things, but based on logic. And what I’ve noticed is I’m just going to go out here and say this. What I’ve noticed is the more intellectual friends that I have super smart people, super. Knowledgeable, very intellectual, always like to solve problems, uh, to do with exist.
Existential issues, humanity, um, spirituality. These friends that I have always liked to rationalize the government’s intervention because in their mind it can’t be a conspiracy theory, right? It can’t be a collection of groups of individuals, including people like bill gates. It can’t be, you know, all of this authoritarian movement where Germany, and by the way, this is the next topic that I want to cover Germany.
[00:07:00] Having now a sanctioned government power to. Uh, mandate unvaccinated people to stay at home. They can’t enter society anymore. They can’t have a normal life. They’re not allowed to in Germany. There are now barriers that separate the unvaccinated and the back’s unaided in public places. This is Germany we’re talking about here.
This is a country that was punished for decades because of its fascist. Um, push for global authoritarianism, the second world war. I mean, it’s incredibly ironic how this is happening right now. So soon off the, you know, the back end of that war. I mean, it hasn’t even been a hundred years yet and Germany’s back at it again, you know, like, [00:08:00] Concentrating groups of people, right.
Concentration. And I, I just want to say that the more intellectual people that I know always like to rationalize this, because for some reason, with this group of people and the way that they think there’s gotta be a solution has gotta be a reason why the conspiracy doesn’t doesn’t fit. But if you look back right, if you, if you’re rational about things, Uh, let me pick a better word for this.
If your, if you’re logical and you use the track record of government and people in positions of incredible power, if you look at history, not even the data today, that suggests that these things are actually happening as a result of. Incredibly powerful, influential people banding together and setting sun agendas.
If you just simply look at the history and the [00:09:00] trajectory of history, you will see a recurring theme. And the recurring theme is the very powerful and the very wealthy, always enjoy more power and wealth. And in order to get more power and wealth, what do they do? They lobby government. They lobby media.
They lobby at this point in time technology, social media platform. Okay. And, and so I, I challenge you. I challenge you to, to keep your mind open. I challenge you not to hastily jump on the back of some government or government funded or bill and Melinda gates funded, a report or study or interview on CNN, which is taking his money right to the.
Millions like literally tens of millions of dollars a year. And I challenge you not to hastily [00:10:00] believe what you’re being shown or told. Right. Because if you do that, you are ignoring the fact that not only are these organizations incredibly corrupt, right? The media is incredibly corrupt because of it.
Conflict of interests with being objective telling an objective side of whatever’s happening in the world right now with the people that funded or the organizations that fund those institutions. Because why, again, would you bite the hand that feeds you now coming back to Germany? This is an incredibly worrying scenario that we’re seeing unfold.
And I knew that it was going to, I didn’t know, but I had a strong feeling that we were going to start to see the manifestation of a lot of what happened during, or B sorry, before and during the war, right? The second world war, where fascism was, [00:11:00] we were fighting against it. We were doing everything we could to stop the March of the Nazi.
And it’s allies. So it’s shocking to me today to see a country that was at the center of that devastating period of time going and doing things that are so familiar. And let’s just take a moment to put things into perspective. Shall we? The claim is that this virus is so. Deadly and so damaging that we need to shut down our entire global economy to protect people.
That’s the claim don’t make any mistake. That’s always what the claim has been. The claim has been that we need to do our part to protect. Other people. So what do we do? We need to keep people locked in doors. [00:12:00] We need to, um, stop the spread of the virus and we need to take these vaccines that were rushed to market.
And if you don’t understand what that means, go and research how vaccines usually come to market. You’ll see that there is an incredibly long time period where organizations like the FDA. Want those companies to meet specific standards so that we don’t get things like massive recalls, uh, massive lawsuits, um, you know, hundreds, thousands of unnecessary deaths from side-effects.
These vaccines have been rushed to the market in an unprecedented period of time. We’re talking a fraction of the time. It would usually take for something like this to reach the market. And they’ve done this through loopholes, right? And executive decisions from the governments of the United States and certain European countries, et cetera.
Right [00:13:00] now we are dividing our society and we are being prejudice against people that for one reason or another, it could be that they’re, uh, Insane conspiracy theorists. But I think right based on what I’ve read and what I’ve seen and the data, I believe that most people who do not want to be vaccinated are not crazy.
Conspiracy theorists. I believe they are logical, rational. People who know a little bit about what the potential risks are, or they cannot justify. In their right mind taking something that is being forced on them, putting it inside of their body and hoping for the best. Because as I said, these were rushed to market.
They were not tested regardless of what the reports say. Okay. Is a factor in that [00:14:00] equation. Time is not something that can be compressed because we are human and we make mistakes. And time is necessary as an ingredient to be able to look back and reflect and see how we can improve something and make it better and avoid potential issues with things like.
So there’s no good reason why this time we were able to do something that didn’t require us to take that much time, because as far as I’m concerned, That’s an essential component right now. Again, going back to these people that are being prejudiced and being, uh, barricaded indoors, right. You know, told to stay in, they can’t come out, they can’t go shopping.
They can’t do the things that they need to do in order to live a healthy, happy life. This is incredible fascist or authoritarian. Um, [00:15:00] And again, the excuses we need to look out for each other. We need to support each other. We need to do our part, but you know what, you know what I think, I think the data doesn’t support that.
I think the data around COVID does not support the claims of the severity of this pandemic. I do not believe that based on what I’ve read and what I’ve. That these lockdowns, that these vaccinations are actually going to make life better for everyone. I believe that yes, they may. And they have been shown to affect the rate of mortality, perhaps the rate of transmission, perhaps the rate of serious symptoms.
But overall, when you look at the data from a very objective birds, What really [00:16:00] helps to, to, to keep people safe, to, to, to keep people healthy, which is the, the major claim right. Of this entire narrative is like, we need to protect you. We need to protect you and your, uh, your, your, your neighbors, your family members, the, the thing that we never have ever addressed in the mainstream is that humans are.
Becoming disproportionately affected and dying from COVID because they are unhealthy because they have underlying health issues because they’re old because they are predisposed. Those are the major issues. Those are the ways that we’re going to tackle this without having to shut down the global economy, without having to become authoritarian and demand, even more power and freedom from people who are already.
They’re already oppressed. They’ve got three jobs in places like the United States. First world country feels like a third world country or a [00:17:00] second world country because people are so tired and broken and beaten by this type of politics that for some reason or another through effective propaganda and brainwashing is now somehow accepted.
I don’t know if every single episode is going to have this kind of a rant at the beginning, but I’m super frustrated and incredibly displeased with how the world leaders are dealing with this situation. And if I I’m a smart man by any means, I must suggest that there is something going on here that doesn’t match what the narrative is.
And it seems to me, based on everything I’ve seen and everything I’ve experienced and everything that history has shown us seems to me, like there is a shift in power and it is on purpose. I don’t, I’m not [00:18:00] saying COVID was on purpose. I’m saying that the actions of groups of individuals at the level of government and perhaps even.
Are mandating vaccines. They are forcing compliance. They are breaking people down into submission and they are taking more power and freedom away, which is what historically always happens when people who are powerful and wealthy want more. Okay. So hopefully that makes sense to you. Hopefully, you know, hopefully we’re on the same page.
If you disagree with me, if you think that I’ve made any major issues and things that I’ve said, I genuinely want to talk to you. I want to understand just as much as you do what’s going on so that we can fix this for everybody. Because as you may have noticed, this is not a sustainable approach. We are going to have to live with this virus regardless of how it was created, where it came from.
We have to live with this virus now, but we cannot afford to keep [00:19:00] doing this to the world economy, to nations, to people because it will destroy us. It will destroy us. We’ve survived these things before we’ve survived. The Spanish flu we’ve survived. Many other epidemics, many other pandemics. We wouldn’t be here if we didn’t and we didn’t take this kind of precaution, we did not force people to stay indoors.
We did not force people into groups. So that we could feel safer. All right. With that said on that positive note, let’s get to the episode and I hope you enjoy it. If you do, please go and leave us a positive review on the apple podcast platform, because every single one we get helps. And if you have any ideas on the kinds of topics you want us to cover, please do get in touch, take care.
I’ll see you on the next one.
[00:19:51] Clement: Before we talk about the book, can we talk about who you are, what your background is, what your expertise is, and some of the experiences you’ve had that [00:20:00] kind of led you down this road to being quite an accomplished author.
Actually, I looked on your Amazon and you’ve got, you know, dozens of books there. So, um, um, I’m pretty excited to be able to talk to you about all of those and maybe focus on some of the things that you’ve you feel like would add the most value to this audience. So could you kind of go through a little bit about yourself and then we’ll get through to some of the more key topics here? Sure.
[00:20:29] Scott: All right. Sure. So, yeah. Um, as you know, my name’s Scott Allen and I live in Japan. I’ve been here for about 24 going on 25 years, um, was born and raised in Nova Scotia, Canada, and just, uh, A brief story on how I arrived here, because a lot of people do ask that question, you know, um, you’re born in Canada, but you live in just outside of Osaka in Japan.
And how did that happen? So, um, to make a long story short, um, I was in [00:21:00] a transitionary period in my life where I needed to make a change because I was tired of just sitting around doing the same old thing all the time. And, um, I had a good life. Don’t make it wrong. I was working as an engineer and, um, doing things, but, um, something inside me was just saying like, you know, there’s gotta be more to it than this.
And I just, um, one day I was in the bookstore, came across Tony Robbins’ book. It was awaken the giant within. And I bought that book, took it home, started reading through it. And Tony said, you’ve got to set goals for yourself. You want to make things change? And I said, all right, that’s what I’m going to do.
So I did that and, uh, One thing led to another. And I do believe in, uh, I guess I’m call it intuition, but, uh, just felt like I was moving on the right path. Um, started getting into a lot of like, I guess, call it personal development, which is really what I was working on is like, you know, um, these goals, by the way.
So here’s what happened. I set out these goals and there were three goals at the time. [00:22:00] Um, one of them was to, uh, I’ve always wanted to be an author by the way. I wrote my first book when I was 14. And then I took a 20 year hiatus where I didn’t write anything, but that I picked that up later again, obviously later on.
But, um, I decided I wanted to be an author. I wanted to travel the world because I’d never been anywhere. And, um, can actually remember what the third thing is. I think it was just like, just get into better health because my health wasn’t very good. So, um, Basically, like I just started cranking on these things.
Like, uh, I painted my zoom like this one bit in my apartment at the time I was single. I painted the walls with all these positivity quotes and my friends came over and they’re like, or like, what’s going on with you? You know, we’re supposed to go down to the burrs and now you’re like doing all this like woo positivity stuff.
And I’m like, yep, that’s right. And I’ll be leaving here in about six months. I said, I’m going to go travel the world. And of course everybody thought that was interesting, but, um, that’s what happened. I ended up finding a job, um, again, by coincidence, I [00:23:00] found the job while I was living in bank. Um, in the newspaper one day, reading it and, you know, making all these big plans to travel the world.
I had no money by the way, I had a car I could probably have sold for, I did sell for like a thousand dollars. So, um, had no idea how I was going to do this thing. Uh, but, and here’s the thing is that, and this is kind of leading into something we may talk about later, but decision is very powerful, like making a decision and not just making it, but going all in on that and allowing nothing to deviate, nothing to pull you off course.
Like once you decide you want this thing, you just keep pushing forward. And that was, I’ve done that every time I’ve done that in my life, it was like a, the result was, um, I guess you call it a transformation or a reinvention, um, without knowing at the time that that’s what it was, what’s what was happening.
But. Anyway, I applied for this job in Japan. I got it. And eight months later, or maybe like, yeah, it was like, what eight months? I think this company flew [00:24:00] me from Vancouver to, to Japan. I could not speak the language. I could barely hold a pair of chopsticks. And, um, you know, uh, that was it. I just landed here at boom and started working and just, just loved it.
And I realized, like, I just wanted this like lifestyle of like everyday. Like, it was just different, you know? Um, I mean, I did this, I’ve been to the states sometimes that here and there, but, um, this was just totally like something just like, it was just blowing my mind, you know, everywhere else, like those like temples and, and all these organic or like these exotic foods.
And, um, I just wanted it. I
[00:24:36] Clement: little Asahi beer cans.
[00:24:38] Scott: Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, um, yeah, got here and just decided no matter what, I’m staying here and I did. And, um, eventually I had. Getting married and raising a family. And, uh, so anyway, um, I could go in and by the way, like I did do a lot more traveling. I, I set up home base here.
I’ve always had [00:25:00] a job, you know, had an, I had a pretty good job. I think that I, you know, that I had, um, built on the way I’m built my, um, built the business as well, and eventually ended up traveling to Thailand throughout, Southeast Asia on vacations. So all those things that I had been dreaming about way back when, and this little tiny apartment in Vancouver, um, and by the way, my walls were also painted with not painted, but I had all these photographs of like all these places I was gone.
There you go. So I guess like, um, some people would call that like building a vertical, like a wall Mirage or a, not a Mirage, but yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And that’s what I built. And every day I just woke up and just looked at that thing and I was like, yep, I’m going to make this happen. And, and then, and all those places I had on my wall, eventually I ended up going to.
You know, that was, that was the magic. But, um, but yeah, you have to really be just like, um, there was a certain level of sure commitment and, you know, I made the decision, I was going to do this thing, but [00:26:00] just, you have to be really intentional about it, you know, like it’s, um, dreams are great, but as long as, you know, if they’re just dreams and nothing comes of it, well, then you’re just back to doing the same thing that you were doing before.
Right. So, yeah.
[00:26:14] Clement: I think we have a lot of parallels with our background. So you talked about a number of things there that I found really interesting because I also have had those experiences where for example, I was working in a dead end job. I’m going to say dead end, I’m sorry, because it’s my, it was my family business.
Uh, but it was a dead end for me because I’m such a different person compared to other members of the family. And I was always very exploratory. I wanted to go out and find new things and, um, I stumbled into Tony Robbins. So I, I completely understand how. How that changed you? For me, it was, it was earth shattering.
I don’t really follow the guy anymore. You know, I [00:27:00] feel like I’ve kind of moved on to other kinds of ways of thinking and other perspectives and different goals, but definitely at the time it was exactly what I needed to kind of shatter, I think, as he probably says a lot of the paradigms that we have about what life is supposed to be like about what our potential is, you know, as a human being very limited usually.
And, um, uh, yeah. And then, you know, you talk about things like moving to Japan. I moved to Japan as well. Well, for a while I lived there not, not long, not as long as you did, but I lived there for about six months. I loved it. It was very eye-opening. Um, I have very fond memories of that place because I tell everybody, you know, when you get to Japan, you will not be prepared for what you’re going to see.
It’s like a different planet. You know, people do things so differently there, the technology is so different and the culture is so different. So I absolutely adore it. And I feel like you’ve, you’ve had a really interesting [00:28:00] life because those are the things that I enjoy. And I think that they’re very interesting.
Um, but yeah, you know, you touched on some very psychological, uh, very important kind of principles such as taking decisions or making decisions, being able to have that muscle to make decisions if that like, you know, quickly, um, I have an experience. The soar experience with that, I was with a lady, um, in my twenties and we had, you know, had some arguments and we weren’t getting along with each other.
I was around about 24, 23, and she was a lot older than me. She was about 30 at that time. And she needed a guy that was strong and a leader and, you know, able to take control and be assertive. And I was a kid still, I was still figuring out what I wanna to do in life. I wasn’t able to, you know, [00:29:00] be assertive or, you know, uh, be any kind of decided person.
So it really rubbed her the wrong way. And she, she and I broke up, but it really taught me a big lesson. And I suppose, again, this is something we’re going to get into, but it taught me how important it is to focus on clarity and your objectives, and really start to take into account. Where you, how, how you want to feel when you, when you pass away.
Like, you know, a lot of people say the worst thing in the world is, is, is knowing you’re dying, but also knowing never did the things that you wanted to do, or some of the things you wanted to do. And I guess it, you know, since then, and now I’ve been able to build more of an appreciation for that, and kind of more of a discipline too, which touches on the topic of this a whole entire podcast, which is being responsible.
Uh, and you have really dived into a [00:30:00] lot of this mindset, a lot of this foundational work, which gives people, I guess, much more power to be responsible and to be that kind of person where they can take control, they understand their potential. Um, What was the, what was the first book he wrote after that 20 year period of just of not writing.
And why did you, why did you begin and was it, what was it about that book?
[00:30:29] Scott: Yeah. Uh, one of the first books probably was the first book it was called. Drive your destiny. Um, And yeah, how that came about. Um, you know, one day it was just like, uh, you know, I’ve been living here for, I dunno, I think at the time, maybe 10 or 11 years and, uh, writing, just like, I dunno, it just, it just came onto my wrist.
What was the, you know, w why did I come here? What was the one, what was that other goal that I had is like, oh yeah, I was going to write a book and, you know, I [00:31:00] started, um, like thing is right. I’ve always been into self-help and personal development, but it was being into it and it was being obsessed by it.
And, um, when I started getting back into it, um, I realized like I hadn’t, as I wasn’t being as intentional with my mindset is I was like, way back when I was living in Canada, I guess. And I was really focused, you know, on how I got here and kind of got away from it for a while. So when I started getting back into it, picking up on the reading again, you know, not just Tony Robbins, but by this time I was, you know, I had a few other mentors that I was really, you know, tapping into and, uh, I was talking a lot about writing books and this and that.
And eventually I think after a year or so, I just got so tired of talking about it. One day. I was, I finally just said, that’s it, I’m doing it. And I just sat down with a pen and paper and I started pounding out these words and I didn’t stop for about a year. And by then I had something like. [00:32:00] I don’t know, a hundred thousand words written, I think, and I didn’t write it all out by pen and paper, but I certainly started that way.
And you know, this was like going way back when, but the content that I was writing about was stuff that I was like, lessons that I learned along the way. And the original book that I wrote, um, it was actually three books. It turned out to be three books that had written, I wasn’t even keeping track. I was just writing all this stuff.
And one of the chapters was actually on taking responsibility, making decisions, um, visualization, you know, a lot of the things that, you know, granted, they have been discussed before by Jim Rowan and Tony and Ziglar. But, um, thing is, is like, it was different this time because I was writing these words, using my own experiences and, um, You know, when you first start out writing to you’re, you’re really modeling other writers.
You feel like you’re kind of ripping their stuff off sometimes. Cause your voice, you haven’t quite found your voice yet. And I did feel it was that way, but I knew that if I kept going, I could push past that, which I did eventually. Um, but yeah, those [00:33:00] initial books were, um, at the time I was done, I’d actually written, I guess, a call it a self-help trilogy, but, uh, it was it.
And um, those were, I think those were the first student that I had, uh, published, uh, immediately seven or eight years ago. And they’ve been revised a little bit here and there. We’re actually going to do a relaunch, those, that original material because the covers have been updated. But, um, you know, with other projects coming up, it’s just, it’s hard to go back and fix things, you know, you just keep pushing forward.
[00:33:28] Clement: Hmm. Yeah. That was going to ask you also, you know, when you read back, you look back on these books that you read when you were very young, do you, you know, my question was going to be, do you ever feel like, well, I wish I could have written that different way because, because my experience is that every time I look back at the work that I’ve done, I want to improve it.
I I’m, I’m just, uh, I’m a big believer in constant development, constant improvement, which I know you are too, or as the Japanese say can buy right. Or something like that. I think it is, um, [00:34:00] It’s good that you’re going to republish some of them. I think, I think there’s a lot of value in the different stages of our lives, where we share how we feel and our experiences and our perspectives.
But perhaps as you get older, you’re able to more masterfully craft that communication and that delivery. So I always appreciate, you know, new revisions. Um, but you did, you know, you and I, essentially, what we’re talking about here is, uh, the Japanese word for it is show Koonin, right? It’s
[00:34:35] Scott: I believe so.
[00:34:36] Clement: of the craft.
It’s someone who strives for perfection, but probably understands they’re never going to reach it. Um, one thing that I have learned not recently, but I think it really dawned on me is. There’s a saying the less, you know, the more you think, you know, the more, [00:35:00] you know, the less you think, you know, and as I learn and learn and learn, and I talk to people like yourself and I questioned my thoughts and the, I start to open my mind.
I realize how little I know about anything, because I can go back to something I wrote like, like we’re talking about. And I can think to myself what an idiot, like, you know, what was I thinking? Um, and it just goes to show, you know, how open-minded, I think we, we really could be, uh, if we really put our minds to it, we could, we could be a lot more empathetic to people.
We could be a lot more, um, accepting of different ways of thinking. Uh, and just, you know, I think there’s a balance there, and I know. I don’t want to kind of like pull away from the topic of the discussion too much, but I think there’s a really fine balance between being open-minded and being decisive, because those are two separate things.
It’s like make a choice, but give yourself enough time to consider all the options first and [00:36:00] try to be as unbiased as possible. Um, so I don’t know how much you’ve dived into that kind of thing, but those are the topics that I think are really interesting to me because I kind of, the way that I like to see it is I take every, whatever Eckhart Tolle is saying, or people as like him who are teaching us about the present moment, you know, being more spiritual, being more open-minded being more accepting.
And then going back to like the stove. And having a look at how they live their lives. And they were very, very decisive. They, they knew what they wanted. They were very clear about it and they were very disciplined. And it’s like, how do you strike a balance between those two things? Because I see the value in both
[00:36:47] Scott: yeah, like, um, something that I see if I’m on I’m from on point here about, uh, What happens with a lot of people, I think is that we get to a certain level in our lives where [00:37:00] we, I don’t know if it’s a subconscious decision or it’s just like unconscious or whatever, but we just decided like, okay, you know, I’ve done enough, I’ve gone far enough.
I’ve gotten this position in my company. And, you know, I’ve got some money saved or a lot of money saved. And, uh, we just fall into this level of comfort where, you know, we feel like we’ve made it, you know, and I’ve done really well. And I’m just gonna, you know, maybe I’m got to retire. I don’t know. Not that there’s anything wrong with retiring, but, um, does it matter if you retire at 40, if you retire at 80?
To me, what that actually means is like, I’m done, I’m going to cash in my chips and I’m just gonna like, you know, coach from here on end. And that’s probably the one thing that, um, I dunno, I think when you, when you talk about like, if we talk about potential, right? Like, I mean, and I was Tom Bailey is one of my mentors.
I just like loved Tom Bilyeu stuff. He’s he, he has impact theory. And just like, I am I’m in this. Um, I just joined up with disease impact university recently, just learning a lot. Cause he’s, he’s, you know, he’s all [00:38:00] about mindset, but I mean, um, that was something that he said is like a lot of people just, uh, you know, they just get really comfortable.
And then what they think is comfort is actually they start sliding backwards after, you know, after a few months or a few years, and they don’t realize that they’re actually sliding back into, um, you know, they’re just, uh, they’re not improving. Of course they’re actually getting worse. And that’s one of the things that kills a lot of people quickly is cause they just lose sight of what actually drove, what was driving them in the first place if they actually had that drive.
You know? So it’s just something I’ve always been very like aware of. It was like, I didn’t, I don’t want to get too comfortable because I live for that. Um, I guess, I guess not to quote Tony, Dan, but he always said like the one thing that. I think someone said, what’s the one thing you would say is like, has just made you successful.
He said his hunger. Right? So, um, I don’t know how to teach that hunger. I don’t know if it’s something you can do that can be taught or if it’s something that you just, uh, you know, somewhere [00:39:00] along the line, you just decide like I’m gonna be so hungry. I’m just like, I’m going to become this unstoppable machine, you know?
And, and I don’t know if it’s a decision you make, I still haven’t nailed that down, but,
[00:39:09] Clement: think it is something you can teach people. I’ve tried. I’ve tried. I’ve had partners. And friends and I have friends right now and without saying any names, I mean, I really care about these people and I I’m watching them from a distance and I’m listening to what they say. And they’re very defeated, you know, for whatever reason.
It’s a very hard time for a lot of people right now, but it’s, I’ve always seen this as a mindset thing. And that’s why I’ve always been. So no matter what’s happened to me, no matter what experiences I’ve had that have kind of really hit me hard or drag me down. I’ve always thought about it as like, well, if I just see things differently, if I just think about it differently and I, you know, I don’t, I’m aware that there’s people that are suffering too many degrees greater than I have been.
Then [00:40:00] that’s kind of like being the permission almost to like, say, well, okay, I don’t have to feel so bad about this. I can, I can, I can trust myself. I can be confident with myself. Um, it’s very difficult to, to, to get someone to think that way. Um, I, I liked, I like to use kind of analogies and I remember Eckhart Tolle probably said something along the lines, along the lines of Jesus didn’t want to indoctrinate people.
He wanted to ask them questions and kind of give them pointers and it let them come to the conclusions themselves. And it’s, it’s almost known as a. As a very effective technique for persuasion is if you really want to sell your idea to someone, you know, ask them a bunch of questions that lead them to the conclusion that you have.
And I would say that’s probably the best way to get someone to see things from your perspective, because, you know, hammering something down someone’s throat is [00:41:00] not a very effective use of your energy. So yeah, I, you know, but the, the fact that you’re studying or you joined into that, uh, Tom bill, you, Tom bill is really aggressive.
He’s a, but that’s great. I mean, that’s very good if you’re, you know, if you’re looking for massive leaps forward and you want to get into the right frame of mind to think Tom’s work has helped me a lot to see how I could make some drastic changes and be a lot more, you know, pragmatic about things. Um, why do you think this was a question?
I, I really. That stumbled across my mind. I wanted to ask you, why do you think we’re so hell bent for lack of a better phrase on being better? What is it about human beings that drives us to just always want to improve? Because I’ve heard this conversation a few times on the Joe Rogan experience, for example, you know, this is a lot of talk about where are we heading with [00:42:00] AI?
Why do we want to create these things? What’s pushing us.
[00:42:05] Scott: Yeah, that’s a big question. And, you know, we could, uh, wow. Like my mind just went in six different directions there. Cause there’s really, there’s not, I, I don’t have an answer for it, but I mean, is it, um, is it something that’s embedded into each individual? You know, we could go back and say, oh, well, you know, I was raised this way going this way, reasons, this way that it does.
So my parents always taught me this, so yeah. Okay. We have those family values say or cultural values, but even like, there’s something much deeper obviously on that, like underneath the, underneath all of this that’s, um, I feel like it’s just it’s, whatever it is, is driving the human experience. Right. And that’s why, you know, we just have this. Thing where we have got to continue pushing forward. Right. And it’s interesting. Like, I mean, looking at, um, I don’t know, use, like say, um, people who are highly, hugely successful. They’re billionaires, they got everything in [00:43:00] the world and yet, um, most of them are still out there. Like say Warren buffet could be an example.
They are still going to work every day and putting in 10 to 14 hours a day. Maybe not everybody, but they’re still working and driving towards something. Um, you know, like what’s driving them, obviously it’s not money because they’ve already got, they’ve got more than they know what to do with. Right. Um, so those are the people that I look at and I think, okay, Whatever it is, that’s driving this person, like, that’s this, it’s not the money.
So I’ve got to stop chasing that because obviously if I get a certain amount, I’m still going to be driving to forward, try to, you know, but there is this. Um, and again, I, you know, we can say that it’s only 1% of the population that are like that, but actually, I, I think it’s, I’ll just throw my hat in the ring and say, it’s probably everybody is like that.
It’s just that the other 99% of us, or 90% of us have not woken up to it yet or wake into it yet. Right. Um, and I remember he totally was [00:44:00] talking about something that it might’ve been in his other book. Uh, I think it was the awakener or I can’t remember the title of the first one, but, you know, um, he says something along those lines where like, We’re all here for a reason.
We don’t know what the reason is, but, um, you know, I think we, we, you know, we, we get up every day, we’d go to work. We come home, we do our thing and we go through a really hard time. Sometimes some people cash in early and decide not to continue. And you know, most of us will continue to push on through that adversity.
But, and this is the thing where a lot of my, I think, work in. It is coming from, it’s just like figuring out what, uh, what is that dry first of all, and, um, how can I get more of it? Like, like I, if I want to really turn on the juice, like what, I think that’s the question I’m always asking myself, what if I did this?
Like what could happen? You know? And I think that’s kind of the obsession that’s driving, Tom, you, I mean, I, I don’t know. I didn’t talk to him personally, but just listening to a lot of the things that he talks about is like having that there’s an [00:45:00] obsession there that, um, no matter what, uh, like I couldn’t stop if I wanted to, you know, it was like, people ask me, why do you write so many books?
And my response, the only thing I can really think of as well, I don’t know what else to do is just like, there’s just this thing inside me, that’s driving me forward. Uh, if you take out a lot of other writers, too, Stephen King, he said the same thing, you know, I mean, obviously he’s not doing it for the money, but he’s just doing it because that’s what he does, you know?
And I don’t know if I answered your question there
[00:45:26] Clement: No, no, it’s absolutely you did. And it made me think of a few other things. What, what do you think people can do to, um, I mean, you know, you, you talk about things like healing your past, how important is that for you to be able to craft, you know, the future you want in life? Because, you know, people always go to the past and they always say, oh, I identify with this.
This happened to me, I’ve done it. I’ve blamed my [00:46:00] father so many times. And I, I, I, I’m very conscious of it now. And I’m very, you know, very, I’m trying to take more responsibility for where I am right now in life, you know, mentally, emotionally, um, because I don’t want to blame him because I don’t think.
Fair. And I don’t think it’s right. And I don’t think it’s helping me either. So yeah. I’m interested, interested to know what you think about that.
[00:46:23] Scott: Yeah, the, um, I’m actually working through a lot of that material, like still diving into it and, and working my way through it. But here’s what I, um, what I’ve come across is that, you know, there are people out there that undoubtedly have had like horrific paths, you know, and certainly can’t discount that I’m not, I don’t think I’m, I’m not one of them, but I mean, we all have things that happened in our past that, uh, led to traumas, you know, and that traumas are for some people it’s very mild and others it’s very severe now.
I’m not a trauma expert or anything like that. So I, I won’t, um, you know, I won’t dive into the science [00:47:00] of it yet until I learned some more about it. But, um, here’s what happens when, when we lean into the past, like looking back at the past and going, yeah. Okay. You know, That happened. And that was, that was a really, it was a terrible thing that, um, maybe it shouldn’t have happened to me, but it did.
And I got through that, you know, and if I hadn’t gotten through that well, like it would have beaten me. So there’s really two ways to look at the past. Uh, you can look at it as, um, you’re the Victor and you’ve made it through you. You’ve pushed through and you’re, you’re here right now, or you’re a victim of your past, and you’re still leaning into it.
Um, playing the victim role is saying, oh, you know, if only this had happened, I would have been a different person. And that’s where, like, I think a lot of people get caught up in the past is they’re actually, they’re near thoughts are anchored to the past, so your emotions are anchored to the past. So when you’re actually the.[00:48:00]
Rethinking something over and over. And this is what happens to like, you know, a lot of people who go through PTSD and trauma is that they’re always thinking about that same situation. So every time they do, it’s like they’re reliving it over and over and over again. And that can go on for decades, right?
Um, until you actually decides you decide or you get help and somebody says, Hey, like, this is what’s happening. This is what you gotta do to, to, to heal. And the healing part of it, it comes from the awareness that you are actually, you’re the one that is recreating those maybe. Yeah. I mean, let’s just say like, uh, somebody grew up in a terrible family home and, you know, um, They have a deep resentment against their parents or their father because of something that happened.
And you continue to, um, go back and, you know, repeat that. You’re, you’re reliving that story over and over and over again, whatever it may be and you can’t move forward when, you know, emotionally, uh, [00:49:00] Your mind is like living in the past. And what we try to do is we try to find a way out of it. Like, you know, we, we go from like victim mode to, um, you know, like survival mode, you know, like we’re constantly in survival mode.
And as long as you’re in survival mode, you’re not thriving. Um, you’re just going to be stuck there, grinding your wheels. And that’s a very, this is a very painful way to live, but I mean, and you know, I I’ve been there some days. I am still some days I go back there and then suddenly it’s like, I’ll snap out of it, like the next day.
But it really, the healing does begin when you can recognize that, oh, that’s what’s going on. And in order for you to move forward, I’ve got to make a mindset shift. Like I’m the one. And the thing is, and this comes back to the responsibility is like,
[00:49:46] Clement: Yes. Yes.
[00:49:47] Scott: You’ve got to take total responsibility for your life because you know what nobody else is going to, and nobody else should, that’s not their responsibility anyways, no matter what happened to you in the past, you’re the only one that can [00:50:00] decide that, okay, you know what, I’m not doing that anymore.
I’m going to be this kind of person. And I’m in this kind of person does these things, and this is exactly what I’m going to do. And that comes back to like making that decision, but also just, um, Like, um, yeah, realizing like everything that’s happened up till now. Okay. I didn’t, uh, you know, I can’t control all the, like, we can’t control the, the circumstances per se, but we can control how we, um, um, how we see those circumstances, or I think it was Victor Frankel that said that like, you know, I can’t quote the offhand what he had said, but it was like, um, we can’t control all the circumstance where we can control how we see them, you know, and it’s something like that, but it was just very powerful and knowing, and that was, you know, you know, I just always think of that.
Like somebody like that, you know, if he, you know, he could survive the, uh, you know, the, um, Nazi death camps and have that kind of attitude where at the end of the war, he was like one of the very [00:51:00] few that was love surviving because he had made that decision. Well, um, what’s to stop anybody else from doing it.
[00:51:07] Clement: Mm mm, wow. Yes. Like so many things you’ve touched on here that I want to comment on. Um, and firstly, Viktor Frankl, you know, that book man’s search for meaning is terrifying because it actually happened. And I don’t really, I don’t think many people know or remember, uh, you know, the events that led up to the war and then all the atrocities that happened at the second world war.
I mean, I mean, you know, today, and I don’t want to get into this too much, but I do, I do feel a responsibility to bring it up now. And again, today I can see a lot of. Parallels between what led to the second world war and what’s happening now with the division and the, you know, the authoritarian [00:52:00] movement towards, uh, controlling people, monitoring people, um, vilifying those that decide to choose a different course.
Uh, other than what the government recommends, I feel like there’s a lot of parallels happening today that led up to the second world war and the atrocities that took place after and, or during rather, and his book and, you know, people, people would benefit a lot from just reading historical books. If you don’t know your history, you’re doomed to repeat it over and over again.
And I am not a history expert, but I think it’s my responsibility to keep myself aware of, of what we’ve been through and always surround myself with people who can help. With that, because therefore I’m going to be much more aware of, of what’s going on around me and put myself in a position where I can make much better decisions.
I, I didn’t mean to, to [00:53:00] drive the conversation in that direction, but it just talking about Viktor Frankl just really spurred me to mention that because it’s a terrible time we’re going through. I feel like 20, 22 is going to be a lot harder. Because I do not see this, uh, this whole authoritarian push slowing down.
In fact, I see it speeding up rapidly. You can already see in Germany, they’ve created these barrier barriers in supermarkets of all places in the world. Germany decided to build barriers to separate groups of social groups. I mean, really come on. I mean, where are we going with this? So, so anyway, so that I don’t, I don’t know if you have any thoughts about that, but you know, that, that’s just how I see things right now.
Um, think people should read, uh, you know, and then they can take more responsibility, right? They can make even better. I also feel like for me, what helped me overcome my past traumas and my beliefs and paradigms about, you [00:54:00] know, victimization. Cause I was a victim for a long time and the entire period that I lived in Asia or Southeast Asia, and I did go to Japan for six months, like I mentioned, but that entire period was like a D evolution for me.
It was like a, it was like a, um, you know, when you, when you, when you’re breaking down, because you’re not, you’re not even staying still, you’re moving backwards. You’re reversing. What you learned was right, because you live in a bubble, you have, uh, made it so that your emotions when, and really honestly, I mean, a lot of us have real trouble with that trouble with figuring out how to manage emotions, figuring out what’s real and what’s not right.
And what I mean by that is okay. For example, right now I know what I want to achieve in life. I’ve got some very clear goals and I know exactly the route that I need to take to get there, but that [00:55:00] route hurts because it’s about growth. It’s about mental, emotional growth. Um, it hurts. So there’s days when I kind of think to myself, thought passes through my brain and it’s like, you know, why are you doing all of this stuff?
It’s very difficult. It’s not pleasant. Sometimes you have panic attacks, you have anxiety attacks. Why the fuck are you doing this to yourself? Why don’t you just have a simple life? Loads of people have simple lives and they enjoy it. And you know, maybe that’s the key to life. Maybe you’re just pushing yourself because of capitalism or because of X, Y, or Z.
And I’m like, no, I think that’s my emotions talking because my emotions don’t want to, you know, you don’t want to feel bad. You want to feel good, but.
[00:55:44] Scott: um,
[00:55:45] Clement: Genuinely challenged people to, to push themselves through that because I feel just like you, that constant growth is the key to having a fulfilling life.
And I think that feeling [00:56:00] stressed or feeling pressured is just a part of that journey. And if we can overcome those things, we’ll be so much better off because of it. And, you know, again, going back to the whole, all right, how do you cure your past traumas? How do you create the future you desire? I think movement is key.
So just, you know, not staying, still, not being in that bubble like you and I were in, um, not being complacent and just always moving somewhere, moving forward, taking a decision, deciding to go here, deciding to be with this person, deciding to do this. I think if you can do that. Frequently enough, you will not fall into the trap of complacency and you will not, you know, D evolve and start to break down and move backwards.
And so I think movement’s very important. And peers, Tony Robbins talks about peers a lot, and that helped me. I changed my entire peer group. You got involved with people like Tom bill here and mastermind groups and things like that. [00:57:00] And yes, it can be toxic because a lot of these people in these groups, what I’ve noticed is they don’t have clear.
They don’t have a clear reason for what they’re doing, they’re doing it because they’re trying to prove that they’re worthy, you know, hyper achievers, overachievers, whatever you want to call them. Um, you can convince yourself that what you’re doing makes complete sense, but in actual fact, what’s happening, I’ve found is you’re seeking validation.
And so you’re really trying hard to be seen as worthy as valuable. And so you’re accomplishing all these things and then you’re still empty at the end because you didn’t address the underlying cause. But, but, but a lot of the time the peers are super important because without that social group, you it’s just going to be so much harder to do it yourself.
And I think a lot of the times, like you said, you just need people to be able to encourage you and help you adopt that [00:58:00] mindset. You need good teachers, good coaches. And, uh, it opens up a whole new world.
[00:58:07] Scott: Oh, yeah, for sure. And I’m all for surrounding myself with people that are just, you know, not everybody, but I mean, there are, you know, like whether you’re following them on social media, but you know, you’re joining their courses, you’re watching their interviews. You’re, you’re really just listening to what they’re saying.
You don’t have to take everything. I mean, you know, I mean, I don’t believe everything that I hear, but you do have to hear it. Uh, that message enough time. So she say, yeah, that’s actually, what are you saying is, you know, what she’s saying is making sense to me now. Like, you know, that’s, um, I want to think that way.
So like, you know, if I hadn’t have listened to, um, uh, I don’t know, like what Jim road was saying, uh, I think it was like, you know, Tony went up to Jim Rowan and said, why do you always talk with the same thing over and over again? And he said, well, because that’s how many I’ll keep talking about it. Cause that’s how many times people have to hear it before they actually take action.
[00:59:00] You know? So, yeah. But, um, yeah, so yeah, like surrounding yourself with the, you know, like this is so true, it just, uh, it, you know, everything that you. Um, pushing forward, trying to achieve, like, trying to become, um, you do have to set yourself up for success by surrounding yourself with at least five people that are doing these things, you know, and, um, uh, that can be difficult to do when, uh, I dunno, maybe like you’re not in that situation.
Um, maybe you’re in a situation at work and you’re just not surrounded by the five people or even one person. Maybe you’re just like, you’re the lone sheep and, you know, everybody’s, you know, you’re just making your end up in a really, um, I don’t know, bad environment per se, but there we go again. And it’s like, if you recognize that you are, is like our, okay, well, um, Maybe you’re there because you need to be right now, but are you going to, uh, just go with the crowd [01:00:00] or are you going to, uh, you know, find a way to break out of it?
And that’s where it comes down to again, to like just being very intentional with your decisions, knowing what you want and being able to, um, you know, block out the noise, but at the same time, like you’re, you’re aware of your surroundings as well. Like, you know, you can like, I can, I don’t know. I mean, I can, I can change hats on a dime, like depending on the crowd that I’m around the environment that a man, like, I can kind of like, kind of like a chameleon, you know, I can camouflage myself, but the true essence of everything that I am that, um, that will be like that will, um, that’ll be wide open when I’m around, uh, say like the crowd where they’re the ones that are really flourishing.
There are the high performance and high, you know, I don’t know if like high achievers, but, uh, just, um, I feel really. Um, I feel like a synergy with that crowd and that’s where I can let my guard down and just be like, um, I’m there to grow, you know? And, and if I’m around [01:01:00] those people that are encouraging that growth, not trying to hold it back.
And I don’t think people try to hold us back intentionally, but people are just so scared that, uh, you know, they’re, you know, we’re always spawning out of fear a lot of the times. And so when someone sees you doing really well, you know, you hear about that like, oh, so-and-so is trying to self-sabotage my success or something like that, or they don’t understand why I’m doing this.
Well, maybe they’re just scared because if they see you make it, they’re gonna. going to realize like, wow. And he, he made it and I’m still sitting back here and, uh, you know, complaining about my job, complaining to our relationship, et cetera. So I think a lot of people are just, uh, and this goes back to what you were saying about what is that drive that keeps pushing everybody forward?
Well, I think that, um, fear is a powerful motivator, but it can also, you know, it’s gonna, it’s got a flip side to it too. It can keep you stuck, but it can also drive you forward. Right. So my biggest fear, um, it’s not the fear of doing [01:02:00] things. My biggest fear is, um, like you’ve mentioned earlier as like getting to 80 and if I make it better for, um, having my last few days on earth and having to look back going, wow, I didn’t actually like do anything.
I didn’t accomplish what I really wanted to. And I’ve only got like five days left to live and it’s too late, you know? So that scares me more than anything. Yeah.
[01:02:23] Clement: Oh, yeah, me too. Me too. And now, and again, I like to publish things in my social media that remind people of the mortality of humankind, right? I mean, like, you’re going to die. You don’t know when you’re going to die. And so what’s the issue let’s, uh, forget about the things or try to forget about the things that we hold on to as, as, as reasons why we can’t do this, that, or the other, uh, fears, doubts, uh, insecurities.
I mean, I know it’s not that easy because I can’t do it [01:03:00] that easily either, but really when you boil it down, it’s like, why would you keep a hold of those things? And coming back to the whole victim mentality thing, what essentially is happening when you believe that you need to be saved, um, is you’re, you’re giving your power to external forces.
You’re, you’re actually disempowering yourself. And if you truly get that, like, if you think about it for a while, like if you, if you meditate. On on where you are in life and, and the Oak. Okay. A good way to do it. Uh, Ray Dahlia talks about this in principles, his book. I love that book and it’s an amazing book.
I always recommend it, but he talks about, um, looking at your past decisions and really auditing what got you to where you are in life. And being honest with yourself and trying to be as unbiased as possible, because if you can track, [01:04:00] oh my God. I don’t know if it’s Ray Daleo or Jordan Peterson. It might be Jordan Peterson.
So you take a stock of your past decisions and your milestones in your life and you, and you kind of try to map a trajectory of where you’re going to go based on that. And it’s actually pretty easy to do. If you’re honest enough, you can see a very clear line. And you can see where you’re headed. Like if you have an addiction problem and you’ve never been able to kick it and you do, you’ve done harder drugs over time.
You could probably guess that, you know, ma maybe one day you’ll do drugs to the degree that you kill yourself. So it’s kinda like that. And I do honestly believe if you can pull off that exercise well, and maybe you need some help from friends or family, you’ll be able to see, oh my God, like I could, I, I could end up being incredibly unhappy and incredibly unfulfilled in my life will mean nothing.
So I need to make some big changes right now. [01:05:00] Um, so, you know, being, being very objective about things and self-aware is something that I’m trying to bring to mainstream social media, along with a lot of other people. Right. And I’m trying to follow in the footsteps of some of the great teachers that I’ve seen.
You know, um, let’s say Mel Robbins, let’s say David Goggins. Uh, let’s say, um, you know, Jocko Wilmack, uh, Joe Rogan to a certain degree too. I mean, they talk about being able to, to, to see things clearer. And in order to do that, you got to have self-awareness. So, you know, just, just saying that as a victim, as a previous victim, uh, you’re disempowering yourself and you’re, and you need to break free from that.
And the, I think one of the ways I’m going to talk to you about this in a second, because I’ve got a question for you, but I think one of the major pillars to that is trying to craft a greater self-awareness. Gary Vaynerchuk talks about this a [01:06:00] lot. You know, being self-aware is, is his biggest skill and it frees him.
It frees him because he recognized that. Weaknesses. He recognizes what he’s shit at and he doesn’t care anymore because he knows that that’s just the reality and there’s not really much he can really do about it. You’d rather focus on his strengths. So he kind of lets himself off the hook and he takes full responsibility.
It’s another thing he talks about a lot. So it’s like self-awareness full responsibility. And then, you know, he, he claims that life is just so much sweeter, but what, what do you think about pillars to a growth mindset? I know you talk about this. We’ve we’ve mentioned a few of them. Is there other, any other pillars that, you know, you need to put in place in order to have this massive success, this massive growth?
[01:06:50] Scott: Yeah. I mean, there’s. So there’s a few of them, but one of them that comes to mind is like, I, you mentioned meditation. [01:07:00] So meditation is something that I hadn’t really taken seriously up until I would say this year, although I’ve talked about it before in the past. And I recommend that to other people, I wasn’t really practicing in myself, you know, um, until I had to.
And that was probably like a year ago or as in, you know, like a lot of people in a really bad place. And I came across Jordan spins and Joe had this program and I was like, I started leaning hard into what he was talking about. Like healing yourself, um, like healing your mind, or how shall I say? Not just healing it, but rebuilding your mind.
And, um, well, when I started going down that path, just like in this one, Again, this was just last year and you know, I’d already been working on a lot of these books and stuff, but I hadn’t something that was quite, that was missing anyway. Right. Um, and yeah, meditation was part of it, but also like, um, visualizing the future that you wanted to create.
And I know this has been talked about a lot [01:08:00] before by the Stoics talked about all the time. Like, you know, if you want to get from here to here, you have to visualize how to do it, but really like, it’s actually really hard when you actually do it. Because again, we’re. I think staying focused in the present moment is powerful, but also taking yourself beyond it and, uh, looking at, um, the life that you want to have and then visualizing the steps you have to take to get there.
Uh, that takes a lot of practice. And, uh, when I started doing it, um, it was really hard. It was like, it really, really are, uh, building a muscle that we don’t actually use that much because, and again, we’re so focused on the past trying to figure out what went wrong there and what could I have done differently?
Why was this done to me and dah, dah, dah. But, um, when you, when you, when you lean on it, when you, when you step away from that and you start to move into like really visualizing the future that you want to be living in Ashley, and that’s not just like, um, visualizing [01:09:00] yourself at the top of the mountain, you have conquered your goals, et cetera, but emotionally putting yourself into that future moment.
That’s where you start to. And again, I’m just, I’m. Probably I’m paraphrasing Juul, a dispenser here, but that’s what he had been referring to as like, you can’t just think about it. You have to actually, um, emotionally move yourself into that future moment. And again, that’s what the growth mindset is about.
Like, you know, as you know, like the fixed mindsets, like, you know, I learned these things, uh, when I was growing up and that’s just the way it is and that’s the way it’s going to be because, um, um, I don’t know how to be anywhere else, anywhere else. But the growth mindset is like realizing like, yeah, okay.
50% of everything that we learned, like that’s not going to, or the things that we were conditioned to believe in, et cetera, are not going to change, but that other 50% that’s all you need is to really, to, to take that ball of clay and start to mold it into something that’s really tangible. That’s where the growth mindset.
And I think like, uh, you know, Carol Dweck talks about this in her book [01:10:00] mindset as well, right? And, uh, you know, she says like, they like the growth mindset. It’s just like, you’re constantly under limitless. Right. You’re just, you’re constantly on that path of growth. And that was kind of what I was referring to earlier, where a lot of people would just, um, you know, nothing they gave, you know, well, we, we, you know, once you give up, you’re just like, Hey, I’m done.
You know, I’ve learned enough, I’ve gone far enough. Well, you’re no longer in the growth mindset stage. You’re just kind of like sitting there for a little while and then eventually you’re going to start falling backwards. You know? So it’s hard though. Don’t get me wrong. Like it’s really, really hard to be that turned on to every, like, I don’t know, not every moment of the day, but, uh, and there are going to be some days when, uh, it doesn’t matter who you are, you will be stuck in your fixed mindset stage.
It doesn’t matter how, you know, how long you’ve been doing this for. But the good thing is, is like, On those days, like those are good days too, because, uh, the next day it was going to be different, you know, as long as you realize, [01:11:00] like, okay, you know, had a bad day yesterday or again, you know, maybe it was a bad day, but it was a great day.
Like in a lot of like, what we look at is like good and bad is really based on perspective. So I don’t like to label things as good or bad, or I had a bad day yesterday. Well, you know, maybe it appeared that way, but who knows? Uh, I don’t know if I could use an example, but, um, uh, you know, maybe, um, I had a car accident on the way to work, for example.
Okay. Well, that’s a bad thing. Okay. Um, And I may be going off that on a little bit of a tangent, but I’m just going to circle back to why I’m talking about this is like you had a car, you had a car accident on the way to work. That was a really bad thing. You weren’t injured, but you know, your car was to kind of told now let’s just say that, um, if you could have taken a different path and decided like, okay, you know what, I’m not going to have that car accident.
I’m going to just like, we’re just going to go back before the accident and I’m going to take a different route to, to work. Well, you did that. And you ended up [01:12:00] crossing the freeway and getting hit by a semi-truck and then your car was totaled and you were killed. Right. So, you know, sometimes we look at things as like, yeah, that was really bad that that happened.
But we don’t realize, like, I dunno, maybe there’s a reason why that happened. Maybe if you had, you know
[01:12:15] Clement: what happened to me. I mean, this is literally exactly what happened to me is what you’re talking about. I,
[01:12:19] Scott: yeah.
[01:12:21] Clement: I got my, uh, I got my driving license. Uh, it was around about 18. That’s quite old because it’s 16 in the UK. So that’s where I’m from originally. And I got my driving license at 18.
Uh, I had no respect for the car. I had no respect for acceleration, deceleration, braking, whatever. And so I crashed the car relatively minor. Crash didn’t, you know, immobilize the car, anything. I hit a wall as I was going down a multi-story car park and, um, I was drunk at the time. Believe it or not. I mean, I, I was very drunk.
I couldn’t [01:13:00] even remember getting home. Um, and that’s how stupid I was. And when I woke up the next morning and I looked at the car, uh, and, and I, and I realized what I’d done. It changed my trajectory in life. It shook me into this mode of being very disciplined with what I do behind the wheel. So I didn’t drink anymore when I drive.
That’s the first thing. And the second thing is I was very careful with how I was driving and I haven’t had an accident since. So. This is a great example. It’s like, would I want to avoid that crash? Probably not because I could have been dead by now. You know, I could have really had as crazy accident. I think, I think this is very good advice.
It’s it’s having a perspective where you look at the things that happen to you and you see them all has having equal value. Whether it’s something fantastically pleasurable or something [01:14:00] tragic, they all have something very valuable to give you. And so let’s not avoid the discomforts of life. Let’s embrace them.
Let’s go back to maybe some teachings from ancient China, ancient Greece, and really work with the yin and the yang of life so that we can have fulfillment. We can be full. We can be complete. Um, well, a lot of what’s happening today. Like cancel culture, right. Is going against. It’s saying let’s remove all the bad things, right?
Quote, unquote, bad things. Let’s remove all the, unpleasurable all the discomforting things from life and we’ll have a great life, but unfortunately I don’t think that’s how things work. And I think by doing that, you’re setting yourself up for failure, massive failure, because now you don’t remember, and you don’t have respect for the tragedy of life, the, the, the, the, the negative [01:15:00] things in life.
And so, you know, but, but, uh, yeah, you, you were making a great point. I just wanted to jump in there and, and kind of comment on that.
[01:15:07] Scott: yeah, I think it’s just like a, you know, just, we, we just have to be more cognizant of like, there’s something bigger that’s happening. I mean, underneath, like what we’ll call it, the, uh, you know, something that. We haven’t seen it yet. I don’t know. Uh, it’s probably a bigger conversation maybe, but, um, you know, if you, I guess when people say, you know, I’m having a really bad day and I get it, people have bad days, but getting back to let’s just use Viktor Frankl story again, as an example, it’s like, you know, if you think you’re having a bad day, you might want to go read this book or dive in, you know, just like take a look at some people and look on the saying, like you’re not having a bad day or something bad.
Didn’t happen to you. But, um, if you stay there long enough, you’re going to start to feel really sorry for yourself. And then, you know, um, you’re just going to end up, uh, putting your mind into a [01:16:00] mess, turning everything into a mess. And, and the one thing is it’s like a. You know, uh, I mean, I always, when people ask me, um, you know, what should I be investing in?
Like in, uh, in my answer is always going to be the same way it should be investing in our mindsets. And, uh, they don’t really get it when I say that. But, uh, after they, you know, after we kind of walked through it, they’re like, oh, okay. That’s why, because if you’ve got a mindset that’s like align with your vision line, with your goals, align with your passion and all that.
Well, um, you could lose everything tomorrow and you could, you know, with that mindset, you can go and build it up again, because at the end, it’s not about all the stuff that you’re, it’s not about getting stuff. Right. So becoming something that’s greater than yourself. Um,
[01:16:47] Clement: Absolutely. It’s a, it’s a much deeper, there’s a much deeper level to all of this then I think a lot of people believe, you know, and that’s just popular culture for you. We’re we’re consumerists. [01:17:00] So, um, and we’re going through a big consumer. Period right now with Christmas. It’s just, it’s just terrible.
You know, I, I I’m buying gifts and things, but I’m like, you know, at the same time I’m thinking to myself, well, what the hell is it? Should I buy? I mean, I, I’ve got to make it valuable in some way. So, you know, um, we’re, we’re immersed in it and, and this is the, this is the reason we’re having this conversation.
We’re trying to break through the noise and reach people in, in a medium that, you know, um, is effective because mainstream’s never going to talk about this. You know, like the news will never try to, uh, the mainstream news will never try to, uh, nourish. It will always try to, um, you know, get your breath, the base of the, of the, of the, how do you call it?
It’s the base of the, uh, brainstem, right? It’s like the, the most primitive form of, uh, [01:18:00] entertainment or let’s call it entertainment because it is news is entertainment today. So yeah, I, um, I wanted to also ask you, you know, we were talking a lot about this right now, but, but do you have any kind of like tips for, or have you found anything that’s particularly helpful for you in terms of, you know, really kind of quickly eradicating or quickly eliminating things that can hold you back?
Maybe habits, right? Bad habits or tricks that you have for getting through days that are just a lot heavier than others, where your mind is going on a tantrum and you know, you’re, you’re losing your composure. Do you have any kind of like strategies for that?
[01:18:51] Scott: Well, I’ve got quite a few strategies, but, um, I’ll just share a few of them. Cause there’s probably, you know, we can always like, there’s a lot of [01:19:00] strategies for doing this and that, but a few things that really work for me. Um, and these are not, these are things you can do right now. And um, okay. First of all, uh, the morning is so important and I’m not saying you have to be a morning person and do a more heavy morning ritual.
I do, but I’ll tell you like when I didn’t have one, um, this is what I was doing. I’d wake up. I would, um, you know, check my phone and then I would get sucked into doing email and then an hour would go by and, you know, by 9:00 AM. Pretty much nothing done because I just set my mind on a path of, um, I guess self-sabotage or distraction.
So I do find that a lining of my thoughts in the morning, aligning my breath in the morning. If I can spend 20 minutes every morning doing that, um, then the rest of the day is a, it’s not a cakewalk, but it certainly is going to go a lot better. So here’s what I do in the morning is I wake up, [01:20:00] I get out of bed right away, drink some water.
And, um, I, I go to reach for the phone and I just like, whoa, okay. You know, I stopped myself from doing that. Not every morning, by the way, there are mornings where I fail at that. And it’s like, I’m I grabbed the phone and, you know, he started flipping through all your emails and then you’re on the social media and, um, That’s something that, um, at all costs you want to try to pull back from that?
Um, I even, um, I do use my alarm actually to still wake up, but I recently been stopping that and just turning the phone off at night. So I woke up it wasn’t on. Right. But that is, that is really key. Like I know 20 years ago we didn’t have a phone. I, to be honest with you, I don’t know if anybody remembers what we were doing before that, but, um, know maybe we’re doing other things.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. That’s um, yeah. Um, and then I sit down for about 10 minutes and I do just deep breathing and it is a form of meditation as well, but wow. When you start like just breathing [01:21:00] in, holding it before, letting it go, and you do that. So in times like that, it was just a game changer for me. And again, this is not like anything that’s new or I didn’t create something that was revolutionary.
I learned this from other people that said, like, if you want to have a great day, or if you want to change your mindset over time, you just have to do these things consistently. And that is part of it. I’m sure. Get it get up early. I mean, early can be six, 7:00 AM for some people, it doesn’t matter what time you get up, but it’s what you do when you get up.
Right. So you don’t have to get up at 4:00 AM and, you know, go through this whole thing. Um, I do get up at five or five 30. But, um, I had to train myself to do that, but it’s what you do when you get up and then just spending, if you can spend one hour, um, without jumping, uh, and I live online by the way, like all the time on my, most of my work is on there.
So it’s really hard not to jump into that, but, um, you just take that time for yourself and that’s, I think what a lot of us are not doing, you know, like we’re not taking that [01:22:00] time for ourselves anymore. We’re just, we’re calling ourselves busy, but the question is, what are we busy doing? Are we making ourselves busy or are we really busy doing something that matters?
Right. And, um,
[01:22:10] Clement: you watch the, uh, Netflix documentary, the social experiment. It explains what’s what’s happened. And these social platforms, Facebook, notably, like is the leader with all of this. It, they just got so good at mining our attention. And so
[01:22:30] Scott: um,
[01:22:31] Clement: we’re addicted to it. We’re all addicted to it. I don’t think I know anyone who’s not addicted to social.
I mean, I probably know a couple of people that don’t use it, but the vast majority I’m saying of people that I know today are addicted to social media. They’ll be on their phone checking, you know, people’s stories or looking at their notifications or, you know, chatting with people. And for there’s a good argument there that, you know, social media has helped people in [01:23:00] many ways.
And, you know, I can, I can understand that there is value to it, but as a net effect of spending seven hours a day on social media, which some people do by the way, and I’m probably I’ve done that one or two days or three days. Is hugely detrimental to your productivity and your overall wellness because, oh my God.
I mean, where do I start? Look, I don’t want to get into a whole conversation about this, but let’s just, let’s just, let’s just be honest. I mean, you’re, you’re checking your phone in the morning because you’re addicted to social media because you’re addicted to that dopamine rush that you get. When you see that you’ve got seven messages waiting for you.
So therefore you’re in, you’re important. Therefore people want to talk to you. That’s, that’s great. But, but, and, and that’s why I think most people do that. And I, I can, I can see how, uh, extreme, it might seem to many of, you know, many of us today, especially younger generations where you say, [01:24:00] don’t touch your phone for the first, until like mid day don’t check anything.
That’s an extreme, that’s extreme to a lot of people because they grew up with social media to think it’s completely normal. They don’t see the issue with it, but again, I think it’s an addiction and I think addiction, yeah. Terrible. And I’m, I’m, I’m a recovering addict from alcohol and, you know, a few other things.
And I, I recognize it for what it is, because you know, when you don’t, when you don’t think about something and you do it, and it’s not entirely beneficial to you, you could say that that’s an addiction right there.
[01:24:33] Scott: yeah. Yeah. And that dopamine spike is very powerful. Like that’s when you, when you start tapping into that, like, wow. Um, and no, you’re, I think I totally agree with you. Like social media has its place. Certainly has its good points. Um, but, um, I can’t remember who said this, but it was like, um, you know, back in the day, you know, like, like 20, 30 years ago we would go visit our neighbors.
Maybe we go from house to [01:25:00] house and you know, in the course of a day, maybe, you know, you could visit like say 10 people right now we have social media where we can actually jump through, you know, thousands of doors in a single moment. And um, like we don’t even know what the effects of that will be in 10, 20, 50 years.
Um, who knows, but, um, you know, so yeah, when I say like, don’t get up in the morning and like get up in the morning and don’t check your phone. It’s uh, I realized that is probably one of the hardest things to do. Um, And it’s also one of the best things to do, but having said that you’re, you’re going to be like, you’re going to be reaching for, cause I still do, like, I wake up and like, you know, do I reach for the bottle of water first?
Or do I reach to check Instagram? Well, my mind is saying, let’s get on that Instagram. Cause we just woke up and we need, I don’t wanna be in spike and that’s like the fastest way to get it, you know? So yeah. But,
[01:25:55] Clement: Oh, my God. Well, you know, luckily there are, I guess, [01:26:00] functions of the phone that you can turn on. There are apps you can install. Um, you could literally put your phone, uh, in somewhere. That’s very hard to access. Uh, every night before you go to bed, there’s a few things you can do for many of the challenges in life that we’ve talked about, like little tricks, um, and, and it can help.
So, uh, so there’s, there’s assistance there to help you when you’re not feeling strong enough to, to deal with that. Um,
[01:26:31] Scott: Um, I was just going to mention, yeah, it was, oh, sorry. I was going to say, uh, one more strategy that I do that’s really. And again, this is nothing new, but like journaling has really, really been a powerful way for me to, um, build one of those pillars for the mindset, but also just for personal growth.
And what do I write about in the journal? Whatever I can think of, but I also write down what my goals are. Right. Um, I don’t do that every day, but on the days when I do it, Ashley, those are the days that are [01:27:00] really, really good. So. All you need is like, like, I think Julia kehrmann talks about that. And, um, her book, the artist’s way, like the, the morning pages while I started out, that’s how, you know, I mean, like a lot of people, I got the idea from that and, um, I got away from the habit for a long time and I got back into it, but yeah, it’s, um, it is a very powerful strategy.
So if you can do anything in the day, it’d be like, you know, your money pages breathwork and then, um, please like exercise. That’s a game changer as well. And again, nothing new there, but when we’re busy doing all these other things, we forget about doing the other things that, um, could be making the big changes that we want.
[01:27:40] Clement: Yeah, yeah, no, I’m a big, big fan of exercise. Um, It’s been essential. I don’t think I could have, I couldn’t have done it without pushing myself physically. It’s it’s that, it’s that feeling of wellness that you get from it that makes everything okay. Again, you’ve had a huge [01:28:00] panic attack or anxiety. You go to the gym, you’re able to expel a lot of that energy, whether you’re, you know, whether you believe in energy or not, I don’t know what you, what, what there is not to believe in it, but a lot of people don’t really get this.
So yeah, exercise absolutely sleep. Absolutely. 100%. I can’t function properly if I don’t sleep properly. Um, and that, you know, again, going back to what Jordan Peterson says, he’s clinical psychologist, right? He’s got, he’s got decades of experience. He’s he? He knows how the human mind and body work together.
And he say’s the biggest, uh, factor in. Being able to manage depressive states with people is going to bed at the same time. Every not sorry, going to bed for enough hours and waking up at the same time every day. It doesn’t necessarily matter what time you go to bed. But as [01:29:00] long as you wake up at the same time every day and you get enough sleep, that’s the key to feeling happier, to not being as depressive as, as you, as you may be.
So that that’s been a big game changer for me too. Um, I think, I think there’s so much in this conversation, maybe it merits another one, uh, in the future. Um, but you know, I’ve really, really enjoyed talking to you about all this stuff. It’s a, it’s a nice. Kickoff to our new brand. And, um, you know, we’ve covered so many things that I, I genuinely want to go into more detail with on this podcast.
So, so I truly appreciate you coming on and, you know, let’s give people, um, the, the, the, the, the places they can buy your book. Uh, what is, what is the book called? Where can they buy it your most recent one? Um, where can they find you online to
[01:29:58] Scott: Sure. Yeah. So we’re currently [01:30:00] building out a new website and my URL is called Ellen international.com, but we’re building other new websites. So the current website is, um, it’s still up there, but, um, we’ll be replaced in that by the end of the month. Um, and at the latest by mid January. But in the meantime, you can certainly go to Amazon, just, um, you can find me on Scott Allen books, if you plug that in, you’ll come across the books.
And yeah, I think the latest book that I launched was, uh, Undefeated was one of them and we’ve got a new one coming out next week called no punches pulled. So, uh, that’s going to be, I think we’re gearing up for a really good launch for that one. And that’s taking the mindsets, um, strategies, I think, to a different level.
We’ve got a nice framework for this book. So, um, I’ve been building out for the last year and that’ll be launching, uh, December 7th, which is, I guess yeah. In a few days. So, [01:31:00] um, but yeah, they can check out, failed big undefeated. Um, and I’ve got a series of books on there on rejection as well, because that was something that I had struggled with for a very long time.
Still do so. Yeah. Yeah. We’ve got a third book coming out for that next year, but, um, I think, uh, you know, there’s, um, probably some material there that, uh, something for, you know, whether you’re looking to, um, you know, do some self healing or you just want to, um, dive into the mindset stuff. Um, and again, I’m, you know, I’m always learning this stuff myself.
Like I’m not, uh, you know, I wouldn’t say like, um, I don’t like to call myself an expert in anything yet, but, uh, uh, there’s always that, uh, that, uh, just like, um, constant and never ending, um, improvement. It’s just like, that’s the thing that I, that’s what I live by. So, um, I’m always learning so that I can teach people more.
I just love teaching people, you know, I mean, I, I, I was a teacher here in Japan for many years. It wasn’t teaching. I was [01:32:00] teaching, um, business, uh, business courses and a bunch of other things, but I just love teaching people. And, uh, you know, every time I learned something, I just want to share it. So, um, yeah, they can check in, um, and Amazon for the books, their website will be up their courses coming out next year.
So really excited for that. So, um, and, um, yeah, I’d love to come back on the show, uh, in the near future and, um, do a follow-up.
[01:32:27] Clement: there’s so much we could talk about. I mean, you’ve got a huge variety of subjects that you kind of specialize in and even, even the, the, the rate at which you publish your books is impressive to me. I mean, when I get around to writing a book, I’m probably going to want to ask you a bunch of questions.
So there’s always that, but yeah. Thanks a lot. Um, Scott for coming on, it’s been a pleasure.
[01:32:47] Scott: Sure. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Thank you.
[01:32:50] Clement: Uh I’ll I’ll close the episode here. Um, and what I’ll do.