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Welcome to episode #54 of The Being Responsible show. Today I cover what’s happening with Bill Gates’ not-so-transparent media and journalism donations, and Germany’s harsh segregation of the unvaccinated. I also have a guest, Scott Allan, who is the author of “No Punches Pulled” to talk about mindset, achieving goals, and personal development among other things.

Skip to 6:47 for the beginning of the conversation.

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References for the Introduction and the news:
Boris Johnson’s press chief gave out joke awards at Christmas party breaking UK lockdown, reports say https://cnn.it/3EPtLvG

Dominic Cummings claims lockdown party held in Downing Street flat on day he was sacked https://bit.ly/3dDIn5x

Phillip Schofield’s ‘savage’ question to Matt Hancock leaves This Morning viewers speechless https://bit.ly/3ygWGWZ

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Clement: Hello there and welcome to another episode of the being responsible show. My name is Clément Yeung and I’m your host in today’s episode, I get to interview James gearing. Who’s been on the show before, when it was called unleash love James lives in the United States. He’s an author. He wrote the book one more light, which is about first responders.

[00:00:20] It’s an incredible book. It’s such a human book. It’s a book that celebrates sacrifice, celebrates doing the right things, celebrates caring for other people and really brings light to a lot of the trauma and a lot of the stresses. And, um, just situations that first responders have to put up with that maybe you and I aren’t familiar with.

[00:00:44] He is a first responder and he’s also a stunt actor, too. He’s a great guy, very excited to share this episode with you. So please stay tuned. But first before I do, I’m going to ad lib. I’m going to go off the rails on the news this week, uh, for the segment of this episode. So what. Well, I think the story that I really want to share with you is about politicians doing the opposite of what they tell everybody else to do.

[00:01:15] You might be familiar with what I’m talking about recently, British politicians were found to be lying yet again. Social distancing. They were having private parties all the way through the pandemic, not just now and all that time. They were telling everybody to simply stay at home social distance.

[00:01:40] And if you didn’t, the police would find you, they will prosecute you. And then at the same time, you’ve got Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock, Dominic Cummings, all of these major politicians, the elite politicians in the United Kingdom, going against the rules that they set for themselves. Now, this shows about being responsible.

[00:02:04] I don’t see how that’s being responsible in the bigger picture. I need to talk about these things because everybody right now needs. Everybody right now meets to understand what’s really going on because the impact of the. Rules and the regulations and the lockdowns and the, the, the impact it’s having on the economy is hurting everybody.

[00:02:33] I mean, okay. There are people out there who are benefiting from this. I mean, just look at the stocks of Amazon, right? Just look, look at some of the stocks of the tech companies during the pandemic. They’ve shot through the roof, the crypto market’s doing really well. There’s a lot of new wealthy, uh, everyday people who simply invested in.

[00:02:54] Whatever crypto they did at the beginning, and now they’re really benefiting from it. So don’t get me wrong. There’s still a lot of great things happening and a lot of success happening for people all over the world. In general overall, it has been absolutely shocking. Just how impactful these restrictions and mandates and lockdowns have been.

[00:03:18] And we still have our government’s pushing for them. We still have our governments pushing for social distancing, wearing their masks. And then we have these exposés in the media. Right. And I just, I feel so embarrassed and I feel so angry too, which is why I like to talk about these things, you know, unabashedly.

[00:03:44] In these segments, because it gives me an opportunity to vent. How does it feel to know that your leaders, the people who you trust, who we have all elected by the way, or have supposedly elected? Um, Going against the rules that they set for themselves. It feels like we’ve been wronged.

[00:04:03] It feels like we’ve been betrayed. It feels like we’re playing a stupid game. And like, it doesn’t matter to these people. What do they know that we don’t know? Why are they not following their own rules? If this is a really serious. Where they need to say the entire country or parts of the entire country, whether it’s the United Kingdom or the United States, remember American politicians have also been found, uh, like the governor of California doing, um, the same thing, having private parties. When is it going to set in that? Where in social group? Operating on different rules and different requirements. The people who don’t have. You don’t have wealth who don’t have influence are being asked to do things that are above and beyond.

[00:04:54] That require us to seed the freedoms and the liberties that ha you know, our ancestors, the generations before us have worked so hard to claim, to put in place. And we’re being asked to give them up. And we’re being asked to do things that are unprecedented. Take vaccines against our will. Otherwise we lose our jobs.

[00:05:22] And at the same time we’ve got these elites, the people with the power, the influence, the money, the politicians that are clearly not following the rules that they set. So I just wanted to touch on that. I wanted to remind you we’ve been segregate.

[00:05:38] And it doesn’t make a lot of sense what’s happening right now. And I feel like if the elites, if the people who we look to to guide us are not following just like children, look to their parents are not following the rules they set. Why should we be following them? What’s going on? Do we need to review.

[00:05:59] Everything do we need to reconsider where we’re at right now in terms of socio politics, do we need to maybe consider that there’s another way that this entire pandemic can be handled and could have been handled and what’s the right approach. Now who’s talking about it online. If these people are lying to us, where are the honest sources of information?

[00:06:24] And I’ve got James gearing on right now who talks to me about vaccine. And all of that stuff. So if you’re interested in those things, which I’m sure you are, please stay tuned and let us know how you enjoyed the episode. If you did, please head over to apple podcasts and leave us a review.

[00:06:41] Every single one we get helps. So without further ado, let’s jump right into it and I’ll see you on the next one. Thanks. 

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[00:06:49] Clement: Before, like, for example, before we start this conversation in the episode, there’s going to be a S like a segment where I just talk about, like, what’s happened with the UK, for example, which I want to talk to you about. Um, and the hypocrite hypocritical government, um, you know, basically they’re in the news recently for, uh, being caught, lying about having private parties and social gatherings.

[00:07:14] James: one. I think it was going to be a giant backlash. I really do. And I’ve just, I’ve literally just caught little snippets, the little, I mean, lack of a better word. It’s probably memes, but these are from all different British sites that I follow and it’s all the same message. So it will be interesting to see how that will pay off because I got a funny feeling this time the British are going to be like, nah, not happening.

[00:07:36] Clement: Right. I mean, yeah, I hope so. Right. Because how long is it going to take for people to actually start to realize what what’s really going on and to pull the wool from, from their eyes? Right. I mean, uh, and I’ve got a lot to say about that. Um, I’ve got a lot to talk about on that subject. It even ant and DEC who are, uh, uh, very popular, right?

[00:08:02] Yeah. They did a little segment in their show. Uh, LA I think it was live TV and they, they really pinned it to them and they really put them on the spot on the national television. And I think that that, that, that might be inline with what you’re saying is that maybe the British public now are going to be like, Nope, not going to take any more of this shit.

[00:08:21] James: well even, and these are, you know, these are platforms that I think certainly aren’t like, anti-vax right. I think there’s another one, Phillip Schofield. Um, and he asked one of the British politicians, he was talking about his dyslexia and he was like, was it dyslexia that made you, um, you know, not follow your own mandates, say dream, but this is, you know, these are, these are all people from, again, I kind of spectrum like ant and DEC and Phillip.

[00:08:46] Schofield’s not the same animal on TV that I remember. And they’re all, it’s the same message over and over again, you know? So yeah, we can definitely dive into that because again, if you just take a step back from even. And talk about the underlying health message where there’s being pushed versus what actually promotes health that really dismantles any of the politicking.

[00:09:08] So I think that’s, that’s the, the middle ground common sense area that we all need to kind of gravitate towards, get away from the extremes and

[00:09:15] Clement: exactly. That’s so true. And it’s something that really, you know, it’s inspired me to ask you, come back on the show again, because your argument is a very logical one and it, it unearths things that. Are forgotten, like people forget about these things easily because you know, like you said, the two extremes of the argument are so distracting and so consuming, and it’s almost like it’s there for a reason.

[00:09:45] It pulls you away from what’s logical. It, it distracts you with, uh, with the stuff that, that, that will divide that will keep you preoccupied. Keep you scared, keep you, so your whole argument about, and I don’t want to kind of distract from, uh, detract from the course of the conversation. Cause we’re we’re we were talking about, you know, hypocritical governments and things, and I want to get back to that, but yeah.

[00:10:10] Uh, I think the arguments are, are very much focused on the extremes right now and they have been for a while, but if we can just try to somehow pull people back to center, I would call it center, which is like just common sense. You know, no emotion. Looking at the facts. Um, then I think we’ll be in a much better position.

[00:10:33] Um, but like, how has the situation, you know, for you and first responders and, you know, we’ve talking about vaccine mandates and things like that. What’s changed since we last had a conversation for you. And, um, how do, how do you see the people in your, uh, social circle kind of thinking of COVID now? Has it changed?

[00:10:55] James: um, so, well, what I have seen is it’s an interesting thing. So I’m English, I’m sitting in Florida and I’m a retired firefighter. So, um, in my state where I was a firefighter for, you know, a majority of my career, our governor, governor DeSantis, I’ve watched him the last two years, be very middle of the road, sensible about this whole issue.

[00:11:23] So when it first happened, you know, our gyms were close the same as everywhere else. And everything was locked down. Everyone was like, okay, this does look terrifying. You know, we don’t know where this is going to. We’re seeing these kinds of apocalyptic images from other countries. Um, and so they did it and he assessed he and his team of course assessed at the numbers and they were like, huh.

[00:11:45] Okay. It doesn’t seem to be. And th the, the, the magnitude that we were thinking about that wouldn’t, you know, result in needing to close down all these businesses and cripple the entire economy for the, you know, the cause of safety. All right. Interesting. So then he opened, you know, restaurants and had an outdoor dining and we had, um, you know, the gyms opened back up and the parks were open and the beaches and places where people can work on their health were opened up very, very early in the state of Florida.

[00:12:17] Um, so then fast forward to these mandates, which popped up, you know, a year and a half in where if you haven’t had a vaccine. Responder who’s spent 10, 20, 30 years of your life serving your community. Selflessly now is being called selfish because they didn’t get a vaccine. And then now, I mean, I got vaccinated back in, I think it was June, um, you know, sadly what they told me this vaccine was going to do for my own resilience, my ability to spread it was actually wrong.

[00:12:49] So now we know all that information and then you’re now slapping these mandates and I’m seeing firefighters, you know, have to leave their station, have to turn in all that gear that have served. I’m getting, you know, I think another guests coming on as a member of the Canadian mounted police had just got fired after, you know, decades of service.

[00:13:09] So I’m so proud to be in Florida. I’m so proud to, to have our governor because I’m very, very, very open about my absolute dislike of most politicians in the system that creates this. We have a system that really pulls out. Yeah, it doesn’t, it doesn’t seek leaders. It just doesn’t. We get, you know, usually these elitist people who clearly the good of the nation, the health of the people is not at the core of their belief.

[00:13:39] It’s not what they think about when they wake up every day. So for him, our governor has walked the walk with first responder mental health with the summer cancer initiatives. So pre COVID I’ve seen him do good things. So I am very, very excited. And it’s funny because I just heard someone say, Tulsi Gabard run the census 20, 24.

[00:14:01] I agree. Tulsi was Democrat initially until they shunned. Uh, the sands, this is Republican two human beings that actually seem to get it actually want to make this country better. I would be a hundred percent behind that. So, you know, it’s, so I’m sitting in a place where I don’t have to face mandates because I’m transitioned out and retire is a very bad word because I don’t get any pension.

[00:14:24] I used it to keep the behind the show podcasts go in. So I reinvested I’m an entrepreneur, as I say, um, or an idiot, depending on how you look at it.

[00:14:33] Clement: no,

[00:14:34] James: But, um, no, but then I see, you know, my, my fellow firefighters that I worked alongside, be threatened with mandates and actually good prevail. And our governor say, look, you know, yes, we want to encourage people to get vaccinated and all this stuff, but you can’t tell people they’re going to lose their job.

[00:14:52] If they don’t get a vaccine that doesn’t even seem to be. You know, excellent and stopping the spread. It just, you know, it doesn’t make any sense. Um, but then on the, on the other side, standing from this position, I’m looking at people in, you know, Canada, um, you know, Washington state, California, New York be dragged through, you know, this horrendous thing where I would understand that mandates almost more, still not, but almost more like a year ago when people truly believe the vaccines are working, but now yes, they have a place, but it’s really more symptom reduction than anything else when you look at it.

[00:15:33] And excellent. If you’re someone who’s, you know, um, at risk, like I said, I got it. You know, I was, I was good. Bass travel is going to see, my grandmother just turned 104. I was doing the selfless thing of getting vaccinated and I don’t regret it, but to take the, you know, the, the numbers that we have now, The number of deaths of very, very low comparatively to a year and a half ago, the efficacy of the vaccine, sadly, doesn’t seem to be even close to what we originally hoped.

[00:16:03] Um, so yeah, so the mandate thing to me is, is a complete slap in the face for the men and women who held the line, whether it was in the hospitals, first responders, military, whoever that after all that self service, all the things that their families went through. And now to put this on them, I think is absolutely disgusting.

[00:16:22] Clement: Hmm. Yeah. You and I both had our vaccine. Right. And, uh, I mean, you did yours for your reason. I did mine because I wanted to be able to travel again. I now regret taking the vaccine, not to say that I’ve had any side effects that I can, that I can notice apart from an elevated heart rate for a number of weeks, which was scary.

[00:16:47] Um, my resting heart rate rate was much lower. I don’t know exactly the beats per minute, but when I’m, before I got the vaccine, it was pretty low. I’m quite a healthy person, um, fit person. But when I got the vaccine, one of the things I did notice, and I hadn’t changed my lifestyle, I was still working out.

[00:17:06] I was still eating the same food was still sleeping. The same hours. What I noticed was my heart rate rose probably about 20. Which is a lot, um, I couldn’t like resting heart rate, you know, wake up in the morning and it was much faster than usual worried me because that’s not normal. And I hate a fast heart rate.

[00:17:24] I hate the feeling of it and I’m a very, um, health conscious person. So anyway, that was the only thing I noticed, which may have damaged me in some ways. I mean, my card is not, is no laughing matter and not to say that I had that either. Um, but I think it’s kinda gone back down again. Anyway, what I’m saying is we both got the vaccine.

[00:17:45] We, we were both skeptical of the vaccine. Um, but. we did it because we felt like we should, for one reason or another, and now fast forward, and you, you know, you’ve made some really good points there that there’s data out there to suggest that the vaccine to show, to prove that the vaccine isn’t actually as effective as we were told.

[00:18:04] So it’s almost like it was a bait and switch in a way. I mean, you could argue, how could they know, how could they know if the vaccine is actually going to be as effective, but then you shouldn’t be making those promises in the first place, um, and lying to people and make, and, you know, scaring them into taking something that, you know, really, you don’t know what’s going to happen with it.

[00:18:23] And that’s my whole argument against the vaccine. So it’s weird. It’s a weird situation for some people to see someone who’s had the vaccine talk against the vaccine. Um, and I’m not an anti-vaxxer and I hate, or that’s a very strong word, but I kind of, I do hate the fact that now in Miriam Webster’s dictionary, an anti-vaxxer also defines as someone who is against vaccine mandates.

[00:18:46] I think that’s a very scary. Development, and it shows you where we are and our, uh, social and our social situation where it’s somehow acceptable for a dictionary as, uh, as, as popular as that, to be able to make those claims, which I don’t think, make any sense, like if you’re against a vaccine mandate, it means you’re against the vaccine mandate, not the vaccine itself.

[00:19:11] I don’t think that they’re interchangeable. Um, so, you know, just to, just to clarify, I, I, I have taken a vaccine. I don’t think it’s the only effective way to deal with this. I mean, we’re neglecting all the other treatments that are possibly and have been shown to be helpful for this. Right. I mean, we, we, we, we are at an extreme in this situation and I think that’s the reason why the, I think that’s the reason why things seem to be. Out of balance right now, because there are treatments out there and there are ways that you could look at the data and say, well, if you just stop eating deep fried food and you have more vegetables and you work out and you get more sun and you laugh more and distress, those are going to really help you, right.

[00:20:02] Statistically going to help you to beat this thing or not get as affected by it. There’s no conversation really about that. I’ve never actually seen a mainstream outlet talk about that, but that seems to be the major cause of death.

[00:20:20] James: Yeah. Well, I mean, that’s something that I’ve talked about for almost two years now at the beginning. The reason why there’s three episodes of the buying the show podcast is because as this thing started coming out, that’s exactly what I was seeing. All right. Where’s, where’s the discussion on underlying health?

[00:20:34] Where’s, where’s the discussion on what we can control. We can’t control as Michael organism. That’s, you know, spreading itself through the air and it’s invisible. It’s my new, but there’s lots of things we can control. So I literally added another episode per week, which is a shitload of time and energy to, to put another, you know, every week, a third expert to talk about this.

[00:20:58] Um, and one of the comments I’ve heard, like over this last two years, Oh, yeah, but you know, the, the, the vaccine is, is the low hanging fruit. You know, we, we, haven’t got time to talk about the health. Well, here we are two years later. Imagine if we talked about that parallel with isolation, vaccine, whatever, you know, other treatment modalities and prevention modalities that we had discussed, fitness, nutrition, sleep, exercise, daylight, um, fitness and exercise the same.

[00:21:27] Um, but you know, the, the community time in nature, we, we would have a population that was two years fitter, two years leaner, two years, you know, into mental practice healing. We could have made such a dent on physical, mental health while we had everyone’s attention. But rather than, you know, what I think should have been done is like, okay, I want you guys to assume you are going to get the virus.

[00:21:55] We’re going to isolate going, gonna wear masks, whatever, but assume that you are. So here are the things that you can do to start building up your immunity, you building your resilience, improving your overall health, improving the chances of you not having a heart attack while you’re cowering and waiting to get COVID-19.

[00:22:12] I mean, all of these things that we, as a paramedic and a firefighter see every single day, but it wasn’t, it was shut down the gyms. You can get fast food delivered to your house. Oh, we’ll throw in alcohol now, too. Um, don’t go to the beach. Just don’t go to the parks, you know, binge watched tiger king and just basically sit in there, shut up.

[00:22:33] And we’ll tell you what you can do next, which when you look at the impact of loss of control on mental health, that’s just another layer so that when you then stand on your pulpit and say, you’re selfish. If you don’t take the vaccine, this is about health and you haven’t walked the walk and improving your nation’s.

[00:22:54] That to me takes away any strength of your argument whatsoever, because if you cared about health, for example, fast forward, almost two years, American schools would have no soda machines in there anymore. They would have switched to fast food and may gone back to cooking regular food, which is not mindblowing before Cisco.

[00:23:14] There was just home cooked food in schools. Um, you know, the, the, maybe there would be some incentives to boost gym membership, all that kind of thing. So what should have happened versus what happened at two very different things and focusing on mask isolation and vaccines and disregarding all the things that actually make the human beings healthier.

[00:23:35] You know, it speaks, you know, actions speak louder than, than words, and they certainly have to me.

[00:23:41] Clement: mm. Yeah, I had an argument with it. Wasn’t really an argument with my assistant who helps me with the show, um, about this. Um, she lives in Germany, uh, right now, and, you know, there’s a lot of stuff happening there. Uh, That I don’t agree with. And I think most people don’t agree with, even if they saved or they don’t, uh, with regards to like, you know, segmenting the population, segregating the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, not just Germany, but also Austria.

[00:24:14] And I think now, uh, even before it was Australia as well. So, but like, you know, what, what really shocks me is how human the human psyche works. What really is terrifying. Blindly terrifying to me is just how illogical people can be. And when you get them in a group, when you put all those people together in a group, you get the worst possible outcome.

[00:24:42] And it hasn’t even been a hundred years. And Germany, you know, Germany’s government is now taking very authoritative stance of our thought authoritarians, rather stances on COVID and the pandemic and vaccines. And it’s very reminiscent of the worst atrocity, you know, that’s happened in recent history. Uh, and I just, it’s shocking to me how people can just blind, you know, blindly go through with it and not, not it doesn’t click, you know, I mean, what, what, what the hell is happening here?

[00:25:18] We’re seeing a, a resurgence of fascism. We’re seeing a resurgence of authoritarianism. We’re seeing resurgence of totalitarianism, um, in many ways. And I try to explain this logic to people about how, how I see the world and how it’s changed so much and not for the better, uh, but there’s still, you know, tied to that argument that it’s a pattern.

[00:25:42] We need to take action. We need to protect people. We need to do our part. We need to, we don’t have time to think about these things. We need to take the vaccine now so that less people die. Uh, and I, I just, you know, it blows my mind. It blows my mind. You know, people don’t even understand what the alternatives on the market are.

[00:26:00] Right. There are drugs out there that have been around for decades that have almost no side effects or none that are very cheap. Like anyone can afford them that can treat this. And it’s been shown on the Joe Rogan podcast. He talked about it. It’s on, it’s on many publications online. You just have to do the research, but we’re not even researching this stuff.

[00:26:20] We’re just feeding. We’re taking what the government’s feeding us. We’re taking what the mainstream media is, feeding us. We’re taking what those groups of people that are super, you know, targeted, scared, uh, are saying to each other and it’s amplifying. And we get to the point where. We may be entering an era of just global authoritarianism and we’re not even realizing it.

[00:26:45] James: well, I think what I’ve seen, for example, here in the U S obviously haven’t been home much to England, um, partly because of COVID, um, is the ripple effect of a broken political system that. Excludes most good leaders. So, you know, what better way than to cripple a country than to put, um, you know, tyrants basically empower, divide the country, divide and conquer, and then, you know, apply whatever kind of regime that you were thinking of applying.

[00:27:21] And I’ve seen that I can’t stand Trump. I can’t stand Biden. I think, you know, previous ones have been useless as well. I mean, you have to go back decades to find true leadership in the U S for example. And even in the UK, when I won the one sort of growing up as Maggie Thatcher. Oh, she was, you know, she ruled with an iron fist, but then you look at things like the Falklands war and he’d go.

[00:27:42] Yeah. But lots of people died. Could we have not, you know, use diplomacy to deescalate that I’m not sure I’m not well versed in. You know, some of the people that we’ve hailed has it really been for the benefit of the people? She was a union Buster. I mean, you know, so I questioned things that I was taught growing up in a pro Thatcher family. Um, but when I look at it now through this pandemic, what we should have seen as unification in all the countries and I’m sure some countries, I would, I would guess probably Scandinavia, for example, I know certainly Portugal, some of my family live there. We’re banding together. We’re doing this together.

[00:28:19] We trust our government. They’ve done things to improve our health before we can have a healthy nation overall. Absolutely. We’ll listen to you. What do we need to do? We’re going to close down here. We’re going to open back up. Okay. But then you look at here, the absolute polarization that was created initially by the Trump administration and now by the Biden administration, it’s divide and conquer.

[00:28:40] And it’s got a lot of people, family members, close friends that don’t talk anymore over a vaccine. Over wearing a mask, you know, so, and if those were literally singularly the solution to this problem, then maybe it would be a little bit more understandable, but they’re not like, I mean, we’ve all seen people riding a bicycle in the fresh air, wearing a mask.

[00:29:04] We’ve seen the person pull the Moss down to have a puff of a cigarette. You know, I mean, we’re learning now, as we talked about, I don’t know if it was in the recording or not, but you know, the hypocrisy of all these governments that are telling everyone you have to do this. And then we find out they’re having meetings and parties

[00:29:19] Clement: that’s what really

[00:29:20] James: no social distancing, you know?

[00:29:22] So, so it’s divide and conquer and I think that’s, it, it doesn’t take much, it just takes good leadership for, to remind the country, Hey, we’re the base of the pyramid. And we paid that person up there and they’re not in charge of it. They are the pinnacle. They can easily be plinked off the moment we stand together and say, no, we’re done, but you allow us to segment and we’re not a pyramid anymore.

[00:29:47] Or a bunch of little tiny, you know, strips, then it’s easier to top us. You know, I don’t understand how we get to the point where police officers are okay with enforcing these mandates and everything and, or military members. That’s when it really scares me because most police officers I’m sure would, would hate that.

[00:30:06] You know? So we have to question the way that our system that even creates these so-called leaders. And if that’s putting up and as, for example, in America, millionaire career politicians, or, you know, orange fucking lunatics that we had recently, I mean, and, and no, none of these people, like I said, in America, the phrase I’ve heard over and over again is, well, it’s the lesser of two evils.

[00:30:34] Clement: Oh, God.

[00:30:35] James: know, 330 million people. And you’re telling me that our two choices are the lesser of two evils. If that isn’t the biggest red flag that your S your system is broken, then I don’t know what is, and then you allow the senile dipshit, this bright orange asshole to then divide you and throw gasoline on whether it’s racial hatred, whether it’s this crazy division over, you know, vaccines and mandates.

[00:31:01] I mean, you know, it’s time for everyone to just hit control, all, delete and remind ourselves that we are a community and, and, and, and find patriotism, not nationalism. You know, there’s two very, very different things. A patriotism involves us investing in our own country, in our own communities and joining together in this fight against, you know, not just COVID everything, mental health, physical health, I mean the whole thing.

[00:31:26] But right now we’re being allowed to be divided by people who have no business, even being in the helm in the first place.

[00:31:33] Clement: they don’t. I remember recently publishing and it was shocking. And in the same day I stumbled across two videos, one of Biden, and one of, uh, Boris Johnson, the prime minister of the UK, basically fumbling. In public, you know, like the first video was Biden forgetting again, what he was actually the point he was trying to make.

[00:31:58] Um, and then just saying, uh, whatever and moving onto the next one. Uh, and then the second video, which I shared on my social as well was Boris Johnson, again, one after the other, uh, Boris Johnson at a conference as the keynote speaker, uh, forgetting or forgetting the order of his talk or speech. And it was so embarrassing and it was so obvious, like this is the day and age we’re in, where our leaders are not the real leaders.

[00:32:29] How can they be, if this is the level of leadership, how can they be the ones pulling the strings? How can they be the ones making the decisions? They don’t even know what they were thinking or where their notes are, or Michael Gove. Who’s a British politician in the cabinet drunk in the house of parlor.

[00:32:51] You know, in plain sight, people are having these, uh, get togethers in private and laughing about it as if, as if they realize something, most people don’t, what do they know that we don’t? Why are they so lax about it? Maybe it’s because they don’t even believe these measures themselves. And so I get really upset when people tell me, you know, oh, you’re paranoid, or you’re a conspiracy theorist because you believe that the government isn’t trying to help us.

[00:33:20] I mean, just look at the news, just look at what’s happening. Um, but you know, I run a weekly, you know, you mentioned social media, uh, sorry, your social movements, people should be getting together. People should be bonding together in, in a time like this. Ironically, I wonder what it would have been like if we weren’t all using social media during this time, if, like, for example, we lived in another dimension where social media wasn’t, hadn’t been created, COVID happened.

[00:33:49] feel like we would have been a lot more United because I feel like one of the mechanisms of keeping us divided is actually social media.

[00:33:57] James: Yeah. Well, I mean, even with, you know, so let me be clear as well. You know, we’re talking a lot about the, the, the, the vaccines, for example, being less effective and all that stuff, but really it boils down to caring about not losing people. And, you know, I think the vaccinations, if they are going to even make a small difference in the more vulnerable that.

[00:34:18] You know, excellent. It’s a tool, you know, whether it’s the, um, monoclonal antibodies that Joe talks about, you know, fast working. Beautiful. I ever imagine I have no idea, but if it again has an application beautiful, but it’s still about underlying health. And if we’re not talking about that COVID or no, COVID every paramedic, you know, around the world can tell you that we’re losing people, you know, hand over fist just from the ill health, especially with the more developed nations.

[00:34:47] So if we’re truly caring about health and we want people who are exposed to COVID to survive, if you’re not talking about improving their, their fitness, their nutrition, their, their mental practice, their sleep, then that’s the death toll, you know, COVID and all these other viruses, the average person might feel like they got hit by a truck.

[00:35:09] They might be asymptomatic, but most people, you know, should be surviving this. And as someone, one of my guests that I forget who it wasn’t yet. The virus doesn’t want you to die. You’re the host. It wants to reproduce and then move on. But if you die, you just took the virus with you. So, you know, that’s the thing.

[00:35:26] So all this, you know, all these measures that we’ve seen. And then, like you said, these kind of snide remarks from these, these people that are having parties while they’re, you know, telling the whole country you’re locked down, it just, you’ve got to reel it back. If we’re worried about COVID deaths, we should be talking about underlying health.

[00:35:44] If we’re worried about deaths outside of COVID, we should be talking about underlying health. If we’re worried about the suicide epidemic, we should be talking about underlying health. I mean, all of these are tied in, so again, you telling people in Australia, you can’t leave your porch, or I’m going to find you $5,000.

[00:36:03] You know, the, I saw one of a shopping mall and there was a tree, a chain link fence. There’s another, obviously the Germany with the whole, and I’ve not researched this, but the little soundbite I saw was a disregarding Nuremberg, you know, agreements. And I mean, just all this stuff, but if you haven’t been like we’re, we’re funding, local organic farming, and the beaches are open and, you know, putting P back in schools, if those aren’t there, you literally have no room to talk about health because you are not walking the walk.

[00:36:34] If you’re worried about deaths then, and you’re talking about vaccines and masks, you are not addressing deaths. You are totally disregarding. So don’t stand on your platform and say, oh, don’t be selfish. It was just for the health of the nation. You haven’t fucking done anything to improve the health of the nation.

[00:36:53] So that makes your opinion a mute point. It really is.

[00:36:58] Clement: you can’t only just be take the vaccine. Uh, or, you know, stay out of society. There’s gotta be something else, right. There’s gotta be, there’s gotta be something that underpins everything and it’s just not present, which, which really shows what the real agenda to me is. It’s to sell the vaccine it’s to get submission it’s to it’s, to it’s the wrestle more freedom from people, which is what we’re seeing.

[00:37:22] You know, I mean, I, I, I, I really didn’t want things to develop the way they have. I was, I was, I was hopeful that we were going to come out of this, you know, is somehow intact, but it just, it just doesn’t seem that way anymore. It just feels like, it feels like we’ve given up. Um, and I, and I, and I, and I personally, you know, change the brand of the show because of that.

[00:37:48] I wanted to talk about. Ways to get people to be more self-aware I wanted to, and by the way, I am not claiming that I, I hold the truth to everything. I’m always trying to develop my, my, my, my awareness and how I see situations and try to make better decisions. So by, by no means, am I saying that this show always, you know, has the right information, but the goal is to, is to bring it to light.

[00:38:15] The goal is to open up the conversation and, and begin to question things and to try to give you could say critical thinking skills, um, and just, and just try to pull people back to center from, from the extremes. You know, I I’ve followed these movements, these social movements, which are, by the way, I feel so convenient at a time when we should be talking about very, very.

[00:38:40] Dangerous, uh, life-threatening topics like COVID or the environment or whatever you want to. We’re talking about very trivial social movements that are dividing everybody. And it’s just the perfect timing to keep us distracted. And I see this happening and I want to pull people back and say, just like you, right?

[00:39:01] We’re both in the same where like peas in the pod with this, you know, let’s be logical about it. Let’s, let’s not fight each other. Let’s try to think about a solution and look at the bigger picture. And when you have, uh, when you have governments that have leaders that are just puppets, in my opinion, right?

[00:39:22] For corporate interests, when you have laws in place where you can actually pay politicians to influence, uh, you know, legislation and, and, and, and, and when corporations have the same rights as human beings, Are we forgetting about these things all of a sudden, like, doesn’t that just naturally lead to this point right now?

[00:39:45] I mean, this is the, probably the effect of that decades on that corporations are now the ones pulling the strings that they’re basically just, they don’t give a shit because why would they let me give a shit about your health? They’d give a shit about profits and power. So, um, I, again, I, I just, I feel very, I feel very, uh, motivated and inspired to help change the conversation.

[00:40:14] Um, what, what is it like for you in the United States? You say that you live in Florida now. I think you lived in California before, right? Okay. And was that because of COVID did you make that decision or, because partly because.

[00:40:27] James: no, no, no, no. I, um, my son’s mother and I were divorced now, but, um, we had, you know, we got pregnant. We had my little boy and she wanted to move back to Florida to be close to family. So that was the rehab was a God, would that have been now? Almost 15 years ago. So way way before pre COVID.

[00:40:47] Clement: I see. Okay, I got you. I got ya. Um, I don’t live in the states. Um, I know that there’s been tension between the way that let’s say the governor of Florida runs his state compared to the governor of California. Do you think, um, that the public opinion has shifted more? Pro-freedom.

[00:41:13] James: it’s hard to tell because we’re all in our own echo chamber. So my echo chamber is, you know, there’s a lot of not only medical professionals, but, um, you know, fire police, military, who seemingly tend to question things a little more because we get to see behind the curtain where the ones on the front line they’re, you know, I have so many members of the military.

[00:41:35] I always asked a specific question, asking their perspective of what they saw overseas, you know, and there’s, there’s such a, again, a middle of the road conversation about, you know, at that time there was a job to do. Here’s some of the horrible things that we saw, but there’s a lot of questioning of, you know, why were you over there in the first place?

[00:41:54] You know? So, um, I S I see a lot of the people that I surround myself with, absolutely pushing back and seeing this as a government overreach times a million. Um, now I see some other people, cause obviously, you know, I’ve got this amazing spectrum of people around me, um, that, uh, completely the other way in their own echo chamber, anyone who’s not submitting to vaccines and masks is a selfish, horrible person and is going to get everyone.

[00:42:26] And I don’t look down on those people. I just realize that their echo chamber has fed them nothing, but that one side then, you know, not so much in my circle, but on the very, very fringe, I see the other extreme where it’s like, it’s a conspiracy and blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, fuck sake, you know? And that’s why on the show, for example, I’ve had friends of mine that were, you know, one lost his job and one was being threatened, losing his job from the vaccine mandates prior to DeSantis, stepping in.

[00:42:54] Um, and then I’ve had a good friend of mine. Who’s a doctor in Texas who is working, ER, and ICU seeing COVID patients die over and over again. And nearly all of them were un-vaccinated. So yes. And yes, you know what I mean? These are the truths, but I think, you know, when you, for example, look at New York, California, and let’s say hypothetically, a lot of them have done what they’re asked to do.

[00:43:20] And two years in still got COVID. Then what, you know, what does that sound like? It’s not working, you know, has it made a dent? Absolutely. I’m sure. You know, absolutely. It’s made a dent, but is it a magic pill? No. What are we missing? All the things that we talked about before converse the in Florida, as much as they try and demonize it, our numbers here are actually being great.

[00:43:44] And we’ve been one of the most, um, progressive, I would say in, you know, put in, put in an initiative, assess, analyze. Okay. I think we can undo the four citrus a little bit, little bit, little bit. And I’ve seen that work incredibly well here. And you’ve got to bear in mind. Florida is not known for its healthy population, really, and we’re not known for our youthful population.

[00:44:10] So, you know, and we have some densely populated state, but I think we do have more space. And that’s one big thing apart from say, Miami, you know, maybe like in a Tampa, there’s a lot of places, you know, even, even the urban setting still has space. We have a lot of sunlight. We have a lot of places to be outside.

[00:44:27] So I think that’s a big part of it too. But, um, so yeah, I mean with the freedom thing, if Florida looked like the, you know, world war Z set right now, they’re maybe we did it wrong, you know, but that’s not the case. So then I think other states are looking over and going, well, wait a second, Florida, hasn’t been doing this for all this time.

[00:44:49] They got all these elderly people and their numbers are actually lower than ours with vaccines and lockdowns and masks for X amount of months. Now, can someone explain this to me? So I think that’s it. I think people are just finally getting past the hyper triggered. And actually starting to question things now, and then that’s why I’ve done what I’ve done.

[00:45:10] You know, as we, as we record this, I think there’s 547 episodes out now free, you know, each conversation like an hour and a half plus from experts and everything from fitness and nutrition and breath work. And, you know, then military police, fire doctors, nurses, nutritionists, coaches, um, and so they can go to them.

[00:45:32] That’s just one podcast that have all that, you know, yours and all these other ones out there, Joe Rogan, and then listen to these people and go, wait a second. They were saying this, but now this world expert is actually saying this and you know, so I think that’s what I’m starting to see. Everyone’s done Netflix, bingeing everyone’s, you know, sick and tired of doing exactly what we were asked to do and not seeing the results that were supposed to happen from it.

[00:46:00] I hope that that freedom and freedom coming from the good place, freedom, including altruistically, wanting everyone to be healthier, you know, save as many lives as we can. I think that’s starting to push out, not from the extremes from the normal people being influenced by some of these other groups. And we’re all kind of slowly pushing out and drag netting more and more of the, the middle.

[00:46:24] And then in the end, I hope it’s just those two extremes that had all the fricking, you know, airtime before that we shut down in the middle, you know, 80, 90% finally force normality, which is, there are very, very deadly diseases. So we need to do everything we can in our power to minimize the impact. So let’s make our people as healthy as possible.

[00:46:45] If we find, you know, vaccines that are trustworthy and effective, I’m all for it. I had all my jobs done when I was a firefighter. My sons had all his jabs, but you know, we have to get past. You know, vaccinations of the miracle pill and, and masks is going to solve everything because it’s been a two year long study now, clearly that’s not the case.

[00:47:08] So the answer to me is basically undoing all the damage to the last eight years move. Like our great-grandparents eat like our great-grandparents sleep, like our great-grandparents and right there, you would solve probably 90% of the issues that we have.

[00:47:24] Clement: You know what I’m just thought about this now, ironically, that might actually be what happens in the coming years. If the economy keeps tanking the way it is, you

[00:47:34] James: yeah. And it wouldn’t be bad. I mean, that’s the thing, you know, pro to me, we talk about evolution. People focus on, oh, technology. We’re going to send someone to Mars. Well, firstly, I love earth, so you can all fuck off tomorrow. I’ll be staying here. Thank you. Yeah, on the other side to me, true human evolution is the evolution of kindness and compassion.

[00:47:57] You look back to the dark ages. And prior to that, you know, some humans did horrific things in our past. You look at medieval torture and the witch trials, you know, all these things. And I think that people are truly becoming kinder and kinder and kinder. And I think that’s why there’s this resistance and these few that want to control us because they don’t want us to care about each other.

[00:48:21] You can’t profit of kindness and

[00:48:22] Clement: I just want to touch on that for a second, because that right there is essentially where people will come in and say, oh my God, here we go again. Right. Uh, but what you’re saying is very obvious to me, it’s very logical to me and I can’t help, but keep talking about it because I think that’s the. And I listened recently listened to, uh, uh, a lady on Russell brand’s podcast, which is an amazing podcast.

[00:48:54] And I highly recommend it. And I don’t agree with everything he says, but it’s just a very entertaining, um, way to, to see things differently and open your mind to different ways of thinking. And he had a vedana Shiva on, I think recently is her name. And at first glance, you know, you don’t, and this just shows it’s quite embarrassing.

[00:49:14] It just shows how judgemental I probably am as a person, but at first glance, she doesn’t seem like a particularly, um, um, well-read or, you know, very intelligent person. She just looks like a normal, normal Indian. Uh, but when she starts speaking, wow, do you start to pay attention? Because she unearths all of the knowledge and the, um, all of the knowledge and the wisdom that is beholden to her and you can’t help, but kind of be taken away by the way that she sees things.

[00:49:44] And it’s just, it just makes so much sense. What she said was, uh, you see over time, power seems to consolidate and that power is not a. Great way is not a great thing for humankind in general, because when you consolidate power and wealth, it, it, it ends up taking it from the rest of the people. So you got 99% of the people on the planet that are, you know, struggling.

[00:50:13] And then you’ve got like the 1% who are kind of constantly thinking of new ways, constantly devising new plans to grow too, just because that’s the way it is. And that’s the way it’s always been. You just have to read history books to figure it out, right. And you don’t even have to go back that far. You can see many conspiracy theories that deal with this kind of corporate greed have become true.

[00:50:35] Um, and, and Edward Snowden is a great example of that. Who’s still on the run. Who’s still being, um, you know, uh, being, uh, pursued by government. Because of the secrets that he uncovered and they were real and, and, and, and, and, and, and they were, they were very pervasive and, and just not the kind of thing you would expect from, you know, public servants.

[00:51:00] Right. But these public servants, like I said, you know, they’re not really, in my opinion. And I, again, I, I don’t want people to think that, you know, this is a conspiracy theory podcast, but the point I’m trying to make is when you say something like that, that you just said to me, it’s completely clear, uh, what you mean, and you’re not talking about like, child, you know, eating children, right.

[00:51:22] Or, uh, you know, just some of the weird Q and on stuff that you hear online. That’s not what you’re talking about. You’re talking about something very logical. That’s trackable traceable through history, the fact that power consolidates and just doesn’t represent the best interests of, of regular people anymore, because how could it, so, so the point that I was trying to make. I think that is going to be a very difficult thing to unravel. And I think until we do, we’re going to continue to see this fragmentation of society. We’re going to continue to see these events happen. That force us to give up our freedoms, force us to, uh, give up our wealth to be taxed, to be, you know, um, and, and I, I don’t know what you think about that, but what is the solution to this?

[00:52:09] How do we get to the point where we have better leaders? If corporations are lobbying governments and they continue to do so.

[00:52:17] James: Well think of it in the tribal way. Um, Sebastian younger has been on there a couple of times and his book tribe is spawn. It should be a must read for everyone. I think it should be a, you know, on the list in schools. Incredible. But you know, when you put it into a tribal setting and he always talks about the era choir, I think with the native American tribes seems to be one the, you know, the most squared away dynamics, but imagine, you know, Steve to give him a Western name for a second, Steve, the selfish native American in the Iroquois, and he wants all the Buffalo or all the corn, you know, you name it, all the thing that the whole community needs to share out.

[00:52:56] What’s going to happen to him. He’s going to be cast out if not strong from a tree, you know, but yet in the west, for some reason, not just the west, but you know, in, in cultures for some reason, I think we just get so big that that cancer is allowed to grow until we realize, you know, and it’s too late, then I’ll give you a perfect example.

[00:53:18] Something I’ll be thinking about recently take slavery. I went to the slavery museum in Charleston, South Carolina, and again, absolutely must visit for it’s certainly every American school trip. I think so the, the Europeans British very much. So we’re the ones that were in Africa, actually buying the slaves.

[00:53:38] Okay. Again, that’s because whether it’s slave owners selling slaves that they captured from other tribes where they’re even selling their own people, you’ve got corruption even in, in the African tribes themselves. So then you get in this case, the bridge. So then their slave trading. Okay. They, they then bring the slaves to the U S they trade them for cotton, tobacco, whatever it is.

[00:54:03] And then they sell back clean hands saying, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m just bringing tobacco. Um, and then make a shitload of money. In the meantime, the American slave owners purchase these human beings. It was stolen from another country, and then they use them to basically farm for free and make incredible wealth.

[00:54:25] So now fast forward to today and you’re like, oh, you know, white people are all racist. They’ve read all this stuff and go, okay, well, let’s reverse engineer for a second. How many people do you think actually gained directly? I’m not talking about the ripple effect when people are pointed out well, America is what it is because of slavery and talking about.

[00:54:42] Then that moment, when that cancer was, was able to thrive, how many regular. American people that, you know, the people in the prairies and, you know, just trying to forge a life. Well, the people in the UK were getting rich from slavery next to no one. And if you actually look, when slavery was going on, Britain was at the Mo one of the most poorest times in its history.

[00:55:07] So the average person was not benefiting from slavery and had no idea it was even going on. And the same in the U S you have the plantation owners, but I guarantee you, you look generally around there, there was extreme poverty going on then too. Cause it would have even less work. I’m not going to pay an American when I can, you know, buy a slave.

[00:55:26] So that is a perfect example. Now, fast forward, all the pain and misery that, that created, yes, it created wealth. Yes. Americans can have an iPhone, but if you ask someone, Hey, we’re going to be a more affluent country. Materially. If we use slavery, are you up for it? Most people have. Fuck. No, I’m not. I’m still human beings and incarcerate them and, you know, beat them and kill them if they don’t even make the trip over, just so that I can have more stuff.

[00:55:55] Have you lost your fucking mind, but that’s what happens. So that is when the few gets a commit, incredible atrocities of the expense of the many. And so how we do it now is we take this, this media, this free media, meaning not CNN and Fox and all these filtered fucking politically leaned, you know, poor excuses for media outlets that we have, but true open source media, whether it’s podcasts, some of these amazing documentaries, you know, using social media for the right reason.

[00:56:26] And if it gets shut down and finding another platform that someone creates, we can have open dialogue and join together and tell the tribe, Hey, this is going on. And the other 99% saying, uh, no, that’s not going to happen. And one of the things that’s really disgusted me about the business world is this, this, um, kind of like holy grail, that is the monopoly.

[00:56:49] So you want to have all the money and you want to shut down everyone else in that business space. And that’s held with high regard in this country. That’s a fucking horrible, horrible philosophy. I don’t want a mega farm to make all the food for the entire United States of America. I want every city and town to have local farms that farm clean food that removes the need to drive it.

[00:57:12] Hundreds of thousands of miles, tens of thousands of miles, you know, across country or continents, even to have to irradiate it and cover it in chemicals who doesn’t rot and root. I want to have my local farmer. Steve. I like to use the word Steve to, to, to feed the local town with clean chemical free food.

[00:57:32] You know what I mean? And local people work that farm. And so when we realized that we are. Uh, nation made up of small communities that make up the tapestry of the UK, you know, Columbia, the United States, wherever I think that’s it. And we use that information, those, those, those knowledge sharing and communication applications that we have now to band together and push against this corrupt system.

[00:57:58] Cause you’re right. How many times you see the news and oh, this African country, you know, it’s so it’s so corrupt, dude. Why do you think we have 80? I mean, 70% obese and overweight Americans because farms and pharmaceutical companies and you name the list that have been lobbying. I’ve taken what was an incredibly outdoors focused, healthy nation and fucking destroyed it.

[00:58:24] So that is it like P we have to educate, as I always say, we gotta, you know, get people educated and angry and not angry and, uh, burn the place down angry. And enough is enough. Let’s join together and demand a new system.

[00:58:39] Clement: that’s a really good point that you made just now angry, not in terms of burn the place down cause that’s what’s happening. That’s what happens when people get angry and there’s no. Th there’s no funneling of that energy into something productive. And I think people are like one thing that I did research and kind of comes to the conclusion about is that when you force people to go and do nothing right, which is essentially what the, what the quarantine did for a lot of people that they locked down, they lose their meaning of purpose.

[00:59:15] And when you lose your meaning of purpose, you look for it somewhere else and you can find it in not so great things. Or you can find it in great things. And with social media, like I said, I think it’s very easy to find purpose in things like, you know, the social movements of today that in many ways don’t serve the best interests of everyone at large.

[00:59:37] So, yeah. Um, so that was a, that, that, that’s an incredibly important thing to take into account is that when you, and you know, we’re seeing a huge drop-off in jobs in places like the United way. And people are claiming that it just doesn’t, it’s just not, it’s just not fulfilling for them anymore. And I can get that because there’s a lot of terrible jobs out there and people make bad short-term decisions.

[00:59:59] Uh, and they don’t think about, you know, their overall happiness. So I, I can understand that to a certain degree, but I, as far as I can tell, a lot of that may be in fact, due to the fact that these people have lost their purpose or their sense of purpose, and they don’t find it in their job anymore, and it’s having a devastating effect on the economy.

[01:00:18] And, uh, and I think that in 2022, unless you can somehow convince me otherwise, I feel like we’re just, we’re going to be in for a lot more of the same. And we need to be very conscious of that and try our best to make the right kind of choices so that we can start to pull out. Out of this cycle because I definitely do not want to see what it’s like.

[01:00:43] If we continue on this path, I think it’s going to be, uh, it’s going to be tragic. You know, when people don’t see people don’t see the impact that this is having in other parts of the world. This is another thing that, I mean, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t, I know that you have to leave soon. Um, but, but we are isolated in our little bubbles here in your country and my country.

[01:01:03] We don’t, uh, Mike, I say my country, but what I mean is the United Kingdom. I live in Columbia right now, and there’s a reason for that. But, um, we don’t get the direct. Impact, this has on people around the world. Like in India, for example, you’ve got farmers committing suicide because they can’t survive.

[01:01:20] They can’t provide, they can’t produce. Um, it, it’s having a devastating impact on people that are part of the supply chain. And we don’t see that and we don’t recognize it. And so how can we empathize? How can we have the big picture? You know, when we don’t, we’re not even privy to these things.

[01:01:40] James: Well, you said about people making choices and I think that’s another dangerous thing. Oh, well we need the government because people aren’t good at making choices. Well, think about the environment, horrible choices to stuff, food in your mouth. Okay. And not move. And that’s, what’s created. This obesity epidemic that we have here in the U S and, you know, I’ve managed to stay in shape despite the environment that I’m in the environment I’m in, doesn’t foster good nutrition.

[01:02:09] Doesn’t, you know, there’s not like great access to, to, you know, healthy outlets here. If I drive down 200, which is our main kind of archery road in Ocala, it’s just fast food left. Right. All the way down in the, on lights. And, you know, that’s, that’s your options. yes, ownership is important. Okay. And I think I’m very lucky.

[01:02:31] I grew up on a farm in England, so exercise and good nutrition were indoctrinated in me early on. So everything else I was like, yeah. But I had the tools to question all the bad shit and don’t get me wrong. I have burgers. And every so often, you know, every so often, 

[01:02:48] Clement: Yeah. I left him. 

[01:02:49] James: you know, yeah. So, you know, I’m not being a hypocrite.

[01:02:51] Like, it’s not like it’s, I’m abstaining completely, but, um, You

[01:02:57] Clement: in moderation, right?

[01:02:58] James: Yeah. Well, you have to think about the environment. So why is it just the last few decades that obesity has gone through the roof that we’ve even discovered what type two diabetes is? You know, I mean, all these things, the cancer epidemic, all of these are just magnifying since we started industrializing food.

[01:03:15] So when you have a country, for example, against Sweden, Norway, Iceland, where the whole infrastructure is set up for health. You end up with a healthy nation, are the suites better people than the Americans. And they just randomly make better choices, know they are human beings like everyone else on the planet that’s being given an opportunity to thrive.

[01:03:38] Are the people in, you know, in, in the very, very densely populated areas in India, given a chance for great nutrition and you know, no exposure to carcinogens, you know, they’re, they’re grow up in, you know, in Delhi or some of these places that are, you know, set up for failure again. So to me, it’s up to the government to create an environment for people to thrive.

[01:04:04] You don’t have to make people make decisions. If there’s ill health in your country, that’s not on the people. That’s a lack of leadership. You know, so a lot of the countries you see around the world and Sweden was ridiculed at the beginning there, their death rate was very, very low because they have a healthy population period.

[01:04:22] Look at Okinawa. Some of the, the, the, I think the most people over a hundred per capita on that island than anyone else around the world and their longevity through this has been incredible. You know? So, you know, I hate that when people say, oh, we need government because people don’t know how to make good decisions.

[01:04:41] That means that the governments prior have failed. Because if you create an environment

[01:04:45] Clement: Yes. Let’s vaccinate everybody. And you’re talking about a very small percentage of the planet that is incredibly. But, you know, like for example, in the United States, the, a lot of the other global policy comes from, you know, just watching what happens in the U S but if you have people giving into a vaccine mandate in a country, that’s incredibly unhealthy because the people are scared.

[01:05:08] They’re going to die. They don’t understand the connection between, you know, their health and their chances of mortality. It has devastating impacts on the rest of the world because the rest of the world’s like, oh my God, maybe we should do it.

[01:05:20] James: Yeah, when it also shows a lack of education. So if you, if you have basic microbiology, basic understanding of neurology, for example, if I can smell cigarette smoke from half a block away through my mask, then that means that a virus can definitely get into my mask. I mean, that’s just like a basic, you know, one-on-one thing, but understanding how to build a resilient immune, human being and all the parts and pieces that are there.

[01:05:50] So yeah, I mean this whole, oh, we need government because people don’t know how to make those decisions. I think that’s a, you know, a disgusting statement in itself, but secondly, that points directly back to the government, because if you haven’t created the environment and the war on drugs, perfect example of the tangent for a second.

[01:06:07] Why are people fleeing? Because the illicit drug market that we created, the black market trade, empowering the underworld through this ridiculous notion that by making drugs illegal, we’re going to fix addiction and mental health. If epidemic has now empowered so many horrendous people that we have the gang culture in, in the U S we have this horrendous, you know, um, issue with the border, with the, the Mexican cartels.

[01:06:34] And, you know, conversely, you take that away. You take the ability to make money from illicit drugs. You cut the head off the snake. Maybe we won’t have people pouring out of Mexico into the U S but no, let’s just build a fucking war. That’ll fix it. And I just, it, it doesn’t make any sense, but again, it’s having the bulls to look back and say, you know what?

[01:06:55] That was wrong, and we’re going to start today fixing it. So, yeah, and that’s, that’s kinda my 2 cents, as they say,

[01:07:02] Clement: Well, I mean, I live in Columbia. Columbia has a really deep history with drugs, cartels. They still exist today. And I still recognize when I see them and I hear about them all the time, but what happened was there was difficult decisions that were made, which resulted in very strong policies and they curbed the whole trade.

[01:07:27] Uh, and they kind of almost privatized it in a way, which isn’t, you know, the best scenario, but it’s definitely meant that Columbia now can flourish, uh, as a, as an economy and throughout the pandemic people. I have just gotten on with their lives. You know, there, there have been locked downs, but nothing serious.

[01:07:48] The economy is actually doing really well here at the moment. And it follows a similar approach to let’s say Florida, where people are given their freedom to do what they need to do to survive, to provide for their family. They’re happier. They’re able to socialize, they’re able to get out and have sun and things.

[01:08:04] So, you know, um, I just wanted to share that I moved to Columbia, not only because of the fact that the United Kingdom is becoming very authoritative authoritarian and doesn’t make sense, a lot of the policies that are happening and there’s a lot of hypocrisy in the government and I can’t stand it. Um, but, but you know, whoever is listening to this, just be aware that wherever you are, if it doesn’t make sense to you, but you feel like you need to follow it anyway.

[01:08:32] Yeah. Just look at what’s happening in other countries. It doesn’t have to be that way. And you can, you know, raise your voice. You can talk about it, which I actually would love to hear you read in a book of yours. I think that if you were to write a book about this, it would be a massive hit because you’re very well versed in it.

[01:08:51] You’ve got a very balanced argument. You can see things from both sides, you can articulate things very well. Have you ever given that any thought?

[01:09:00] James: not specifically about this. I’m actually about to write a second book. Um, it will be a fiction because I think, you know, the first one I did was, you know, it was real, it was stories from my life and my firefighting and paramedic career. And then obviously lessons learned to kind of tie it in. But, um, there will be elements of this I’m sure.

[01:09:21] In the characters, um, it’s literally fetal, it’s like two cells at the moment. Um, but, uh, you know, I’m, I’m, I’ve got the concept. I know how I want it to be, but it’s just like the last one took a long time before I

[01:09:34] Clement: That is great news. I didn’t expect that. I didn’t expect you were going to do a fictional book. That’s that’s really cool.

[01:09:40] James: Yeah. Yeah. Cause friction gives you the last two then, you know, to deviate from what’s actually happened. And obviously they will a hundred percent be a lot of influence from the real world calls that I’ve been on and, you know, the people and even these conversations, um, but my, my kind of goal, and it would, I can almost see it as a film as well.

[01:10:01] I mean, who knows, but when you really get sucked into a great great book or a great, great film, you know, you really get to unravel the background of characters. And I think that’s, what’s missing where, you know, there’s so much knee jerk at the moment. So many like shallow, shallow arguments and the addiction’s a perfect example.

[01:10:24] You know, people don’t talk about, you know, oh, well, were you a soldier? Were you on the battleground? Or forget that? What happened before we even put the uniform.

[01:10:31] Clement: Right.

[01:10:32] James: that happened to you or what happened to your parents, but you know what I mean? So you can just pull back the layers of the onion and really, really kind of find the nucleus of a, of a story.

[01:10:41] So I have a concept, I have an idea of some of the characters, but, uh, yeah, I hope that it’s, it’s a kind of book where if I’m able to write it properly, when people go down, but I put the book down finally, they’ll be like, you know, it will sow seeds. It may not even resonate right there, but it was so seeds and get people to question things.

[01:10:59] But yeah, so we’ll say, and then whether there’s a kind of, you know, an ability to tie in some of this stuff into the narrative, um, I wouldn’t want it to be about this particular thing, but, um, you know, that I’m sure there’ll be parallels.

[01:11:13] Clement: That sounds really interesting. I’m super excited for it. And if you need me to be part of the focus group, I’m all for it, man.

[01:11:20] James: Beautiful. Thank you.

[01:11:22] Clement: Well, I think that’s a really good point where we can close this off and, uh, I really appreciate you coming on, man. Again, it’s been a pleasure.

[01:11:29] James: Yeah, no, thank you. It’s been always a good conversation and, you know, I, I don’t normally do, you know, chats like this and, and not, that’s a bad thing. And so, but usually as a focus on, you know, like I said, fireplace health, wellness, specific topics, but, um, it’s been good just to come in blindly and just have a open conversation.

[01:11:48] And I think that’s just, it, most people agree, you know, on those things that are truly important to, you know, whether it’s a single person, whether it’s a family and if it doesn’t align with your family’s safety, feeding your family, put a roof over their head, you know, watching them grow up, turning, you know, helping them become kind compassionate.

[01:12:09] People as they grow up, if anything that we see people tearing each other apart about doesn’t align with simply those core values, then I think that’s the nucleus to star. You know, if you found yourself off, away from that recenter, you know, is, is, is everything that we’re talking about about the health?

[01:12:29] Are we truly making people safer and healthier? And if we’re not, then what’s missing, let’s bring that in if it’s solely being ignored. Okay. Well then I’m going to question some of the things that these people are saying.

[01:12:42] Clement: Yeah, no, it’s been an excellent conversation and I think these are the kinds of conversations now. I have a deeper impact on people because, you know, you can script things when it comes to speaking specifically about certain topics, but when it’s an open, free form conversation, you know, it’s really difficult to do that.

[01:12:57] And people get to see the, the more intimate side of you, how you think, what your real thoughts are, your real values and principles. And, um, and I, I can’t think of a better guy to do it with. So thanks. Thanks again. Hopefully we’ll do it again.

[01:13:10] James: Absolutely. Thank you mate.